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30 Jun 2010, 7:55 am

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I would never have an abortion, for any reason.


I would never have a baby for any reason!!


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07 Jul 2010, 11:05 pm

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I had an abortion, it was the right choice for me. I have absolutely no regrets and it was not a difficult thing for me to go through. The time I was pregnant, however, was horrible for me both physically and psychologically. It really pisses me off how some people act like pregnancy is such an easy thing as is adoption - like you just wait for a little bit and then give away your baby and everyone's happy. People die from pregnancy, people become permanently crippled from pregnancy - it's not an easy thing and certainly hell if someone is forced to go through it. The right choice is what the right choice is for the pregnant woman, for HER, no one else should have any right making that decision.


Word! People don't talk about this stuff enough.

I had gestational diabetes. Like many others who had it, I now have diabetes.

I never had a cavity in the 36 years before my pregnancy. Can't count how many I've had since then.

I suffered from horrendous depression both during and after pregnancy. I was also nauseated for the ENTIRE NINE MONTHS. This is far more common than people know.

I had pre-eclampsia, a life-threatening condition, during labor. And I've got a hideous c-section scar.

None of this is my child's fault, and he was very much wanted. But think about how someone might feel, puking their guts out for nine months straight, for the sake of a baby they didn't want and were forced to have.


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10 Jul 2010, 3:52 am

willaful wrote:
Celoneth wrote:
I had an abortion, it was the right choice for me. I have absolutely no regrets and it was not a difficult thing for me to go through. The time I was pregnant, however, was horrible for me both physically and psychologically. It really pisses me off how some people act like pregnancy is such an easy thing as is adoption - like you just wait for a little bit and then give away your baby and everyone's happy. People die from pregnancy, people become permanently crippled from pregnancy - it's not an easy thing and certainly hell if someone is forced to go through it. The right choice is what the right choice is for the pregnant woman, for HER, no one else should have any right making that decision.


Word! People don't talk about this stuff enough.

I had gestational diabetes. Like many others who had it, I now have diabetes.

I never had a cavity in the 36 years before my pregnancy. Can't count how many I've had since then.

I suffered from horrendous depression both during and after pregnancy. I was also nauseated for the ENTIRE NINE MONTHS. This is far more common than people know.

I had pre-eclampsia, a life-threatening condition, during labor. And I've got a hideous c-section scar.

None of this is my child's fault, and he was very much wanted. But think about how someone might feel, puking their guts out for nine months straight, for the sake of a baby they didn't want and were forced to have.


They should not have had secks in the first place then.



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10 Jul 2010, 4:11 am

hahaha, go Kat. I have to say it is a healthy way to take control of your life. That or just reserving teh secks for people with whom you won't freak out about having a baby with. :D

Learned that lesson... 8O



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10 Jul 2010, 5:51 am

I hate the abortion debate. It's boring- everything that can be said about it has been said, but people just keep screaming away, unaware that nobody who already has a strong opinion is going to change their mind. Also, I hate how the issue is used to manipulate people into voting for politicians who oppress sexual minorities.

That said, there are two ways I could get pregnant given my orientation: planned pregnancy and rape. Nobody, of course, would abort a planned fetus unless their life was in danger or the fetus had a hideous and deadly condition such as anencephaly. If I were raped, though, I think I would abort to avoid propagating my rapist's genes. Rapists don't deserve an evolutionary advantage. My motivations are scientific; I guess that's an AS thing.

All of those scenarios are unlikely to come up in my life because I have reduced fertility. Plus, if I ever wanted to start a family, my partner would probably want to conceive and carry the baby because I am a genetic nightmare myself. Butting out now.


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10 Jul 2010, 10:43 am

Kat15 wrote:
willaful wrote:
Celoneth wrote:
I had an abortion, it was the right choice for me. I have absolutely no regrets and it was not a difficult thing for me to go through. The time I was pregnant, however, was horrible for me both physically and psychologically. It really pisses me off how some people act like pregnancy is such an easy thing as is adoption - like you just wait for a little bit and then give away your baby and everyone's happy. People die from pregnancy, people become permanently crippled from pregnancy - it's not an easy thing and certainly hell if someone is forced to go through it. The right choice is what the right choice is for the pregnant woman, for HER, no one else should have any right making that decision.


Word! People don't talk about this stuff enough.

I had gestational diabetes. Like many others who had it, I now have diabetes.

I never had a cavity in the 36 years before my pregnancy. Can't count how many I've had since then.

I suffered from horrendous depression both during and after pregnancy. I was also nauseated for the ENTIRE NINE MONTHS. This is far more common than people know.

I had pre-eclampsia, a life-threatening condition, during labor. And I've got a hideous c-section scar.

None of this is my child's fault, and he was very much wanted. But think about how someone might feel, puking their guts out for nine months straight, for the sake of a baby they didn't want and were forced to have.


They should not have had secks in the first place then.


Nonsense - consent to sex is not consent to pregnancy with all its risks. Neither are those things an appropriate 'punishment' for having sex.


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10 Jul 2010, 10:44 am

MissPickwickian wrote:
I hate the abortion debate. It's boring- everything that can be said about it has been said, but people just keep screaming away, unaware that nobody who already has a strong opinion is going to change their mind. Also, I hate how the issue is used to manipulate people into voting for politicians who oppress sexual minorities.

That said, there are two ways I could get pregnant given my orientation: planned pregnancy and rape. Nobody, of course, would abort a planned fetus unless their life was in danger or the fetus had a hideous and deadly condition such as anencephaly. If I were raped, though, I think I would abort to avoid propagating my rapist's genes. Rapists don't deserve an evolutionary advantage. My motivations are scientific; I guess that's an AS thing.

All of those scenarios are unlikely to come up in my life because I have reduced fertility. Plus, if I ever wanted to start a family, my partner would probably want to conceive and carry the baby because I am a genetic nightmare myself. Butting out now.


You're quite right. Someone who would rape another human shouldn't be passing on their genes and potentially creating another human like themselves.


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12 Jul 2010, 12:21 am

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You're quite right. Someone who would rape another human shouldn't be passing on their genes and potentially creating another human like themselves.


I don't think raping can be genetically transmitted :lol: - raised by others the kid will probably be just fine.

But I would definitely abort a child conceived through rape, no doubt about it. I even wonder if it would be possible for a woman to have a normal, healthy attitude towards the pregnancy and the baby or really love the poor thing.


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12 Jul 2010, 11:20 am

I am sorry you are going through this. If you believe you can live with the consequences, then do what you feel you need to do. However, I do believe that just as it takes TWO (as someone mentioned here your ex will HAVE to financially support the child, because after all, he did help create it) to support a child, it should take TWO to determine if such child should live. If you believe the choice is yours and only yours to make, if the father doesn't want to have anything to do with the child, please don't complain. I am a fair person, and I do believe each of us lives with the choices WE make...but don't make a choice and expect someone else to live with your choice...if you want to share the guilt/responsiblity of abortion/parenting, share the decision to abort/let the child live.

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12 Jul 2010, 11:36 am

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I am sorry you are going through this. If you believe you can live with the consequences, then do what you feel you need to do. However, I do believe that just as it takes TWO (as someone mentioned here your ex will HAVE to financially support the child, because after all, he did help create it) to support a child, it should take TWO to determine if such child should live. If you believe the choice is yours and only yours to make, if the father doesn't want to have anything to do with the child, please don't complain. I am a fair person, and I do believe each of us lives with the choices WE make...but don't make a choice and expect someone else to live with your choice...if you want to share the guilt/responsiblity of abortion/parenting, share the decision to abort/let the child live.

Good luck to you.


What if he wants the child? No one has the right to force someone to remain pregnant.


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12 Jul 2010, 1:10 pm

I understand...but if nobody has the right to make someone keep a baby alive, then nobody should have the right to expect anyone else but themselves to take care of such child.



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12 Jul 2010, 2:46 pm

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I understand...but if nobody has the right to make someone keep a baby alive, then nobody should have the right to expect anyone else but themselves to take care of such child.


Yup. That's fair. :)


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