discussion about swearing/rules regarding swearing

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Eh? Pardon me. No I have not. You're wilfully misunderstanding / misquoting me again. What I suggested (and this suggestion was seconded by another member) is that you either enforce the rules or scrap them.. I'm merely pointing out that there are rules in existence with regards to swearing (that happen to coincide with the wishes of many people on here) that are currently redundant since they're not being enforced. Once again, my suggestion is: either A. scrap them if they're not going to be carried out, or B. enforce them if they're going to stay. If Alex is the only person who can decide about updating the rules, why not contact him? You keep going on and on about how "impossible" it would be to moderate swearing. I assure you that on other forums I visit the moderators do not find it "impossible" to do at all. They use their own judgment for any "grey" areas and simply have the last word if anyone starts whining or disputing their decision. Some quick editing, a few infractions and a ban for repeated offenders, and bam. They soon get the idea that they'd better not s wear here if they want to stick around. But if your rules are deemed so "impossible" then why have them there at all? As I said (without meaning to be "snide") it makes the mod team look daft. People are constantly flaunting the rules and getting away with it which leads to a lack of respect for the mod team and a lack of fear of the consequences of rule-breaking.

I'm a person who respects rules even if I don't agree with them. Example: as a Christian I do not agree with sodomy and Wrong Planet has a rule regarding "homophobia." I simply do not talk about those things here. I respect the rule. If I want to discuss Christian views on sexuality, I go elsewhere. I respect that rule here even though I don't agree with it, and it's enforced by the mods. Why is the swearing rule not respected by my fellow members nor enforced by mods? I see no one claiming it's "impossible" to be able to judge when a word is deemed homophobic. Why the selectivity with regards to rules? This is not a subjective issue about how I or you or anyone else feels personally. It's an objective issue of rules.



No, actually, my aim in the Clean Chat thread was not based on my own rules but was simply an exasperated attempt to start a thread that respects the stated rules of Conduct for WP (which currently the mods do not enforce elsewhere). i.e. no swearing or discussion of Adult topics outside the Adult section.. If that one thread is easily defended and you can step in and delete profanities there, why not elsewhere? First you say it's impossible; now you say it's easily defended. You keep contradicting yourself.





Now you are just being ridiculous.

Everybody knows that poop is a babyish, non-offensive word to refer to faeces, and s**t is an adult, offensive word used to refer to the same thing. It is not the object being referred to that is the problem (i.e. faeces). It is the word chosen to describe it. Everybody knows what swearing is, so stop trying to pretend you haven't understood the point. The same applies to homophobia. There are certain nasty words used to refer to a homosexual person, and then there are nicer words. If someone were to use one of the nastier homophobic words I am sure you would snap out of your jokey mood and pounce on them sternly and issue them with an infraction, so why does your feigned lack of linguistic discernment only manifest itself when discussing swear words?

Those are questions you should be asking in the mod room, not here. I'm not a mod. It's not up to me (or any of my fellow underlings) to decide.

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or genuinely starting to wake up to some possible courses of action, but any of the above courses of action would be better than the current approach of doing nothing at all!

If you are genuinely seeking suggestions, how about having a thread called "Report Foul Language Here" ? Rather like the one currently used for reporting spam.

PLEASE (sorry to shout but I'm getting desperate here!) can we have our unpopular WP members thread back? I don't mean to be rude, but this is meant to be an escape for some of us, not an active discussion/debate thread I don't get to go out much (social anxiety) and this forum is the closest I have come to making friends and feeling less isolated.

So, yet another attempt at getting back on track. Sounds like we have many pizza fans, all with different preferences. I haven't managed to make a comprehensive list yet, but just want to say that mine's a veggie supreme on a thick base, easy on the cheese.

Now, how about side orders? Garlic bread, anyone?

I'm sorry if you feel like the discussion has been going on too long. This is a random discussion thread where anyone and everyone may take part. It's normal on these sorts of threads for there to be different conversations taking place at the same time and I know that can be frustrating because I often find the Clean Chat thread being dominated by certain individuals talking about something I'm not interested in, but it's their thread as well. The thread belongs to everyone and I dare say I often talk about thigns that don't interest them. It works both ways. So I just jump in and start talking about something I feel like talking about. If anyone happens to be interested in my new topic, they reply. If they're not, they don't. It's no big deal. I just go off and look for another thread to interest me.

Like you, I also have social anxiety and zero friends and I don't have any alternatives to this forum, either, which is why I was trying to campaign for it to be made a nicer place. However, I'm sorry if you are upset by me writing so much about a certain topic. I did not want to upset anyone. Just trying to appeal to people not to swear in here.

Feel free to talk about pizza and I'm sure people will reply and the thread will move in a new direction again.

If you ask Cornflake to move the snowballing swearing discussion posts to a new thread elsewhere and restore this thread back to random banter, I dare say he will. Mods have mysterious powers to move things around.

It should be ok now

Oh, thank you so much, Spongy.

I wasnt' trying to deny anyone the chance to debate the topic, it's just that we don't usually get caught up in debates like that in the unpopular WP members thread and to be honest it was starting to upset me a bit.

Thanks Spongy, you're the best.

*Hugs*

I am sorry for upsetting you, lundygirl. I hope you don't dislike me for it. You know how it can be when you get absorbed in talking about something and you go on and on and on and on and on about it because it's so interesting...well, I do anyway! At least this has now become a new thread which is out of your way and you do not need to ever read it again if you so wish.

Thank you, Spongy.

PITA- Pain in the ass, ass is considered a swear word? I thought ass was about as bad to say as hell or crap.

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Well no, if you read further on in the thread you will see that amongst other things it turned into a debate about the "grey area" of words that some people think are swearing and some people don't. Personally "ass" (or arse, as they say in the UK) is swearing to me, yes. It may not be for other people. I never knew crap was bad to say until a little girl was shocked by me saying it.

I read the whole thread before I posted, please don't make uninformed assumptions

I beg your pardon. My assumption was based on the fact that, had you read the whole thread, you would already have encountered the point you raised.

So you think ass is offensives but not crap. So people should get warned for posting certain words but not others. I find the word moist offensive. You said there was no issue with putting substitutes such as poop. But some people think crap is bad to say, and sh*t gets bleeped. How are the meanings of those words different. I had a teacher who said we were not allowed to say freak, as in that is freaking annoying. If moderators had to bleep every word that was considered a cuss word then wouldn't they also have to bleep substitutes?

I think he means that he is just surprised to see that some people elsewhere see the A as a swear word

Interesting thread. I think Cornflake is right, it's far too subjective. All_white, you talk about words that are universally accepted as swear words, but the words you gave as examples aren't universally accepted. Some people don't think b***h is a swear word and using it doesn't cause any offence. Where I currently live the f word is not seen as a swear word. It's seen as a very mild expletive. I was gobsmacked the first time I heard it used by the news reporter on the radio. I've seen it on billboards and even in the title of a blockbuster children's film.

And for the record, I'm from the UK. If I'd ever used the 'c**p' word, my mother would have washed my mouth out with soap and water.

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I think you are personally attacking me. Because of that your post is offensive and I think it should get moderated.

Which is exactly why I used it, I was under the same impression.

I was mad when I made that post, I won't deny it.

What I did not expect was that me calling someone that who has stalked me for the last year, dislocated my shoulder and many other worse things which I cannot speak of in public, would be taken as an example of bad language.

Quite frankly, the indiviual I was talking about deserves much much much worse language used on them than that. I was being downright polite about it.

For me, the words I used fall in that grey area, and here are largely used as normal language by the majority of the poopulation here. I'm sorry you are opposed to swearing, all white, but this place to me is somewhere I can express myself (much like you, I think, even if we have different ways or different views of it).

I know you had no idea about what context was behind my post, but I did kind of take it as an affront that I couldn't even say that here, of all places, esspecially considering what that person has done (and is continuing to do).

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