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26 Jan 2008, 7:46 am

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Are those symbols of Fascism I see?

Even if Bush doesnt get in, the World Bankers will just put another pupet in place, Just as Blair gave the crown to Brown in UK.

I understand Iran is one of the last few countries the Pharisees dont run the banking system for, now that they run Afganistan and Iraq, and since the G8 summit, Africas economic system.

"Give me control of a nations monetary system and it matters not who makes the laws", (or something). Rothschild[/quote]



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26 Jan 2008, 7:49 am

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Hard to read that as anything but anti-Jewish sentiment.

This is the Politics, Philosophy, and Religion forum. By its very nature it is contentious. We express views here that are anti- just about everything, people, countries, religions, you name it. But if somebody posts something that can be considered anti-Semitic, we are supposed to stop everything and punish the evil-doer? Give me a break!

One break, coming up. :lol:



Which break...mcdonalds or kitkat :lol: ..oh great,now i'm hungry :roll:

As far as the Rothchilds are concerned../
I would now like to point out that talking down the evils of the ku klux klan isn't considered aniti-white..is it.So how is it any different when a small but evil faction of another group is concerned??

I am in NO way intolerant to any race color or creed...



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26 Jan 2008, 8:33 am

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As far as the Rothchilds are concerned../
I would now like to point out that talking down the evils of the ku klux klan isn't considered aniti-white..

What an odd analogy: Jews and the KKK. :roll:

One hardly deserving serious refutation...



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26 Jan 2008, 9:38 am

Bush has less than a year in office left, and his opportunities are less. And he's trying to focus more on the economy now.


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26 Jan 2008, 12:21 pm

I really hope he doesn't have to, we're stretched thin enough between Afghanistan and Iraq. Iran is a very real problem, some people have mentioned Putin and the whole gas pipeline - that's a huge problem in the sense that he's willing to swallow an assassination attempt from them to get that pipeline through; mainly for the fact that he wants to be able to pull the strings over there the way OPEC does on our resources often enough. Point is though, if they do build nuclear - we're f'd, all of the first world democracies, not just us. Yeah, people don't listen to Bush or Cheney and they've been discredited just because people have chosen not to like them.

On the other hand, you have people who come from Iran, come from places like that who can try to tell westerners whats really going on, what people are really being taught to think, and no one wants to believe it; being that Fox is often the only channel that will air them on TV at least people want to think that they're just being puppeted by Fox, aren't real, and yet these same people just look at the actions of these countries, shrug, ignore the dynamics, almost like they're too emotionally fragile to believe it. People just need to wake up though, its a VERY real problem.

My hope really, the European nations have to understand how close this all is to their doorstep and if we really cracked down on our border policy, like almost any of our current candidates in the primaries have pushed right up there with economic concerns - the EU will know that they'd be probably the first target for a nuclear attack; it would just be easier to execute and while the wahhabi and such hate us they really hate democracy, freedom of religion, free-thought, they're really coming after everyone; which really leaves all the people painting people like Blair, Bush, and Cheney as evil bafoons really just being people who either want to just live their lives and not be bothered until tyranny is thrown down on them or alternatively they want any kind of change just because they've got an empty spot in their lives that they haven't learned to fill. I'd really hope the third option, that they're really naive enough to believe that the middle-east is run by these peaceful little governments and that the west is just pillaging and raping them; I'd hope that kind of naivity is really few and far between because that attitude is far more dangerous I think than what people keep saying of Bush and Cheney.



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26 Jan 2008, 12:43 pm

it's not about Bush.
behind Bush is were the brain sets, Bush just goes with the flow.

but the answer could be YES in the sense that the world banking elite wants to attack Iran as soon as possible because is part of their AGENDA... and i think they are way behind due to information-communication advance of the later years. for example the internet.

30 years ago they would be able to attack much faster. people used to rely on the TV box for news and information.....they still do, but their number is shrinking.



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26 Jan 2008, 6:10 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
On the other hand, you have people who come from Iran, come from places like that who can try to tell westerners whats really going on, what people are really being taught to think, and no one wants to believe it; being that Fox is often the only channel that will air them on TV at least people want to think that they're just being puppeted by Fox, aren't real, and yet these same people just look at the actions of these countries, shrug, ignore the dynamics, almost like they're too emotionally fragile to believe it. People just need to wake up though, its a VERY real problem.
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I don't believe that many people in the west believe that Iran is a paradise, or that there isn't a level of religious/cultural repression there that I would find intolerable. I certainly haven't seen that from the non-Fox media.

I think that much of this 'concern' for the people of Iran is insincere. Women in Saudi Arabia have less freedom than women in Iran, yet that issue isn't used against the Saudis because they have cut a deal with the US. They are clear about how they produce oil, who they sell it to, and what currency is used for the sales. So they get a pass on how they treat women, how they repress religious freedom, or the fact that they are even less democratic than Iran.

Rhetoric on human rights should not be selectively used to ostracize countries that the west has a political grudge with - there should be an objective scorecard, and we should deal with all countries in the same way.



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26 Jan 2008, 7:10 pm

ASPER wrote:
it's not about Bush.
behind Bush is were the brain sets, Bush just goes with the flow.

but the answer could be YES in the sense that the world banking elite wants to attack Iran as soon as possible because is part of their AGENDA... and i think they are way behind due to information-communication advance of the later years. for example the internet.

30 years ago they would be able to attack much faster. people used to rely on the TV box for news and information.....they still do, but their number is shrinking.



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I agree...After looking into it further i had discovered that usery is still outlawed in their beliefs (unlike the rest of the world)

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27 Jan 2008, 2:01 am

ed wrote:
This is the Politics, Philosophy, and Religion forum. By its very nature it is contentious. We express views here that are anti- just about everything, people, countries, religions, you name it. But if somebody posts something that can be considered anti-Semitic, we are supposed to stop everything and punish the evil-doer? Give me a break!


Anti-semitism is far worse, both morally and intellectually, than 98% of the stuff that goes on on this forum.

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I think that much of this 'concern' for the people of Iran is insincere. Women in Saudi Arabia have less freedom than women in Iran, yet that issue isn't used against the Saudis because they have cut a deal with the US. They are clear about how they produce oil, who they sell it to, and what currency is used for the sales. So they get a pass on how they treat women, how they repress religious freedom, or the fact that they are even less democratic than Iran.


We do what we can with Saudi Arabia. Perhaps you remember a recent case where a woman was sentenced to 90 lashes for being raped, and when she decided to fight legally a judge upped it to 200, but enough international pressure landed on Saudi Arabia that the President nullified the sentence.

But yes. Saudia Arabia has two things going for it that keep it from being attacked. As I understand it produces more oil than Iraq and Iran put together, and attacks on Saudi Arabia would wreak havoc on oil prices, which could in turn cause the US economy to implode. And second... Saudi Arabia is possibly THE worst nation on earth when it comes to human rights, womens rights in particular. It is much further gone than Iran. Iran, on the other hand, was undergoing major modernization that the Ahmanijad regime is working to undo, and could be (relatively speaking) easier to fix.

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but the answer could be YES in the sense that the world banking elite wants to attack Iran as soon as possible because is part of their AGENDA...


Take off the tinfoil hat, buddy.



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27 Jan 2008, 7:24 am

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ed wrote:
This is the Politics, Philosophy, and Religion forum. By its very nature it is contentious. We express views here that are anti- just about everything, people, countries, religions, you name it. But if somebody posts something that can be considered anti-Semitic, we are supposed to stop everything and punish the evil-doer? Give me a break!


Anti-semitism is far worse, both morally and intellectually, than 98% of the stuff that goes on on this forum.


So Jews should have special protection? It's OK to bash everyone else, but not Jews?



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27 Jan 2008, 8:37 am

it's not ok to bash anyone.


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27 Jan 2008, 9:20 am

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Russia along with Germany and the Vatican is one of the most powerful forces in the EU.


Since when was Russia part of the EU? I've heard talk of Russia joining, but only talk.


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27 Jan 2008, 11:52 am

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So Jews should have special protection? It's OK to bash everyone else, but not Jews?


Simply put, yes.

Anti-"zionism" would in itself not be such a problem were it 1) not so incredibly, unbelievably stupid, and 2) usually a cover for outright anti-semitism. Which if you recall was responsible for arguably the greatest atrocity in human history, the Holocaust.

See, you're the exact kind of person that makes such special protection necessary. You can't even mentally seperate Israel's more militant action from 'jews'.



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27 Jan 2008, 12:19 pm

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See, you're the exact kind of person that makes such special protection necessary. You can't even mentally seperate Israel's more militant action from 'jews'.


Nowhere in any of my posts can you find anything to justify such a statement. Nambo made reference to an alleged international conspiracy of Jews to control the world's money supply. I don't believe in such a conspiracy, but I support his right to say it, as well as your right to refute it. (in fact, I'd hoped for such a rebuttal... isn't that what the forum is for?)

I do hate the Israeli Government, because I believe it wants war as much as the Palestinians do. I also hate those radio ads here that try to bolster support for Israel. But I don't hate Jews, or "the Jews"; if anything, I'm pro-Jew and anti-Christian :D



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27 Jan 2008, 3:41 pm

ed wrote:
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See, you're the exact kind of person that makes such special protection necessary. You can't even mentally seperate Israel's more militant action from 'jews'.

Nowhere in any of my posts can you find anything to justify such a statement.

You wrote:
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It's OK to bash everyone else, but not Jews?

(Connotes clear-cut tacit approval from a mod of Jew-bashing).

While Alex replied immediately:
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it's not ok to bash anyone.

Are you sure you're a moderator? 8O