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But I would still like borders.

So you like the Brexit Nades?
For several years i dont have a passport anymore.
I can travel enough inside my head .
My house have walls, and a door to who i can locked. The walls and doors are a kind of borders, but its not based on nationality/country.

You lock the doors for security and a sense of belonging. Brexit largely happened because of a lack of those two. I don't care much for Brexit and voted against it but I don't have any animosity for the people who did vote to leave the EU. There were good aspects of being in the EU and bad aspects. Freedom of movement was good an all but when even Angela Markel says letting in a tide of humanity was a mistake then you know borders exist for a reason.

I'm also not much of a fan of Brexit. I think that Britain made a huge mistake. It's a shame when you really think about it. To think that I really looked up to Britain and the UK before that all happened. I decided to embrace my true colours after the fact. Black, red, yellow and white added on for Canada.

Soon there shall be 2 'germans' in the white house.
Two dogs who dont think in countries, sadly that many humans do think in nationality.

Russia and China don't really exist for me, because they are identities based on "nurture". Apart from that, it seems that there are very few people from those areas on this forum. Could Wrong Planet be blocked in those areas of the planet? Could it be a language issue that so few people from those areas are present, or a cultural issue could also be the cause. The fact that few people from the continent of Africa are present on Wrongplanet will probably partly be due to access to the internet.

Interesting question about- the geographic location of WP members.

Mainland China seems to have no representation here at all (despite being one fifth of the world population), and never has had. A few Russians have been on this site, but I havent seen any of them lately.

You wouldnt expect to see folks from North Korea because that country is so controlled by its rulers.

India has occasional visitors. One young lady was a regular. But I havent seen her in a long time. But India's presence here is tiny compared to it huge population size.

One person from Egypt was here. But I dont recall seeing anyone from anywhere on the African continent between Egypt and South Africa. Just those two countries on the opposite ends of the continent.

There have been folks from South America. One from the Phillipines, and one from South Korea.

But most of the membership is from either the Anglosphere (USA, Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand), or from northern Europe. The country with most members relative to its small population is probably Finland. Relative to its population Finland probably has more WP members than does the USA ( I would be willing to wager).

Scandanavia, Netherlands, and Poland are well represented.

Forgot to mention Japan. Ive never seen anyone here from Japan despite it being an advanced country with a large population. South Korea, and the Phillipines, but never Japan. Go figure.

Some Middle Eastern folks. Lebanon, a Palestinian. Maybe an Israeli or two.

Epke ZONDERLAND

Somewhere on the planet are now the Olympics. One of the athletes who participates in a gymnastics event there is Epke 'Zonderland'. Epke's family name is Zonderland. Zonderland translates to English means without-nation, without-country

The sad mechanism that insanity in groupes like countries is seen as normal and not as insanity.

I don't know who Eugene Debs is, but I do know I live the same country as Eugene Debs.

He was a pioneering US trade unionist.

Debbs had also been sent to prison by the the Woodrow Wilson administration for refusing to give up the right to strike during America's entry into WWI, and doubtlessly for his luke warm support for the war effort.

I am probably as much of a pacifist as most people but I can't help thinking the world would be a better place today had the US gotten involved in WWI at the outset.

The problem with anti nationalism is it can be also anti democratic.

Its all great removing borders like in the EU and having the same laws in place until the government or supranational government introduce something you don't like, then what?

Politicians will also gravitate to corruption if left unchecked, this is why the UK left the EU the people saw the anti democratic nature and future dangers.

All pro EU supporters could do was claim brexiters were racist because they wanted to limit immigration.

The smart ones recognised it wasn't about immigration specifically but the fact the UK electorate were bound to EU laws on open borders so couldn't change the law. Yesterday it was about immigration tomorrow it will be about being ordered to go to war and 30 years from now euthanize the elderly or disabled who knows?

There needs to be a direct link between the government and the people they rule over.