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31 Dec 2007, 4:47 am

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Oooooooow! I'd need the 1000 people BEFORE my derriere could cash the check... that's sort of the point of the PMs!


They're unsolicited, unwanted....did it ever occur to you that this is spamming? Not to mention that the JRC could easily have been monitoring posts on WP, and decided to take action?


First off, I don't get the whole ... mouth cashed checks... thing. Is there another way to put the phrase?
I'm interested in what it means... thanks.

Secondly...
If the JRC did something so unusual as to 'monitor posts on WP', what sort of action are you talking about... action against anyone protesting their place? Or legal action against WP?


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31 Dec 2007, 7:06 am

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Quatermass, are you scared of the Rotten Judges?? I mean Rotenberg... people, whatever, they're not teachers, they don/t teach. It's because people shut up and tolerated them that they exist in the first place, and it will continue to erxist as long as people are too scared to do anything but shut up and tolerate them, because everyone else is doing that...


I am more scared of what legal retribution they can bring down upon you.


Quatermass,imagine that a 'Seven Up' series is done on these victims.
And they have all commited suicide

i am on ana54's side
"Legal retribution" pfffffffffffffffft!
Evil wins when good men do nothing :!:

You gotta admit,
The Doctor agrees with me with this
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31 Dec 2007, 7:14 am

wsmac wrote:
First off, I don't get the whole ... mouth cashed checks... thing. Is there another way to put the phrase?
I'm interested in what it means... thanks.

Secondly...
If the JRC did something so unusual as to 'monitor posts on WP', what sort of action are you talking about... action against anyone protesting their place? Or legal action against WP?


Firstly, the phrase means that you may say something that you will regret later on. Especially if you tell someone to put up their dukes, only to get thrashed half to death. Or say that you are going to storm the JRC, only to get thrown in prison for doing something illegal. Trespass, for example.

Secondly, I dunno. They might take action once Ana54 does her thing. If they've got lawyers skilled at making a dodge on this issue, surely they also have Nazgul to go onto the attack (some lawyers for companies like IBM were called Nazgul, after the wretched beings from Lord of the Rings).

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Quatermass,imagine that a 'Seven Up' series is done on these victims.
And they have all commited suicide

i am on ana54's side
"Legal retribution" pfffffffffffffffft!
Evil wins when good men do nothing :!:

You gotta admit,
The Doctor agrees with me with this
:P


Evil also wins when it calls what good men are doing evil. Storming the JRC is likely to get you arrested, charges brought, and for all you know, you'll get the same treatment. So, you either

a) Do nothing.

b) Use legal action.

Those are the only two sensible options. Use your brain, or not at all.


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31 Dec 2007, 7:51 am

Quatermass wrote:

syzygyish wrote:
Quatermass,imagine that a 'Seven Up' series is done on these victims.
And they have all commited suicide

i am on ana54's side
"Legal retribution" pfffffffffffffffft!
Evil wins when good men do nothing :!:

You gotta admit,
The Doctor agrees with me with this
:P


Evil also wins when it calls what good men are doing evil. Storming the JRC is likely to get you arrested, charges brought, and for all you know, you'll get the same treatment. So, you either

a) Do nothing.

b) Use legal action.

Those are the only two sensible options. Use your brain, or not at all.


Quatermass,you are falling into the aspy logic trap i.e.
"Storming the JRC is likely to get you arrested"

How about a thousand protesters dressed as death in the black robes & sickle
surrounding the place from the other side of the street
ala Gandhi's non-violent protest?

c) Say something.
If WP got sued,I think, 15,000 angry Aspys
would get...a lot of attention...


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It's because people shut up and tolerated them that they exist in the first place, and it will continue to erxist as long as people are too scared to do anything but shut up and tolerate them, because everyone else is doing that...


Still on her side :!:


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31 Dec 2007, 2:07 pm

They would have to arrest all 10 000 of us, and there aren't 10 000 prisons in the US, so we'd be together in groups of like 20 (they'll have run out of solitary cells)!



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31 Dec 2007, 5:44 pm

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How about a thousand protesters dressed as death in the black robes & sickle
surrounding the place from the other side of the street
ala Gandhi's non-violent protest?


That can work, but Ana54's exact wording is storm the place, not protest on the other side of the road. So don't back out, if you support her, you've gotta storm the place.


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31 Dec 2007, 8:12 pm

Just walk in, in a huge crowd, filling the hallways, and take kids out with us... I should have worded it more specifically. :)



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31 Dec 2007, 8:17 pm

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Just walk in, in a huge crowd, filling the hallways, and take kids out with us... I should have worded it more specifically. :)


It'll still end the same way. No doubt ruining any chance of settling this through the courts.


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31 Dec 2007, 8:29 pm

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Just walk in, in a huge crowd, filling the hallways, and take kids out with us... I should have worded it more specifically. :)


It'll still end the same way. No doubt ruining any chance of settling this through the courts.


Yes,police are paranoid about riots.
Its 'Battle Stations' whenever a crowd forms.

And no,
there is such a thing as bad publicity,
JRC would probably have all it's clients withdraw
and have to shut down.


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02 Jan 2008, 5:27 am

Er, only thing is - if the kids are removed from the place, who is going to look after them?


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02 Jan 2008, 3:52 pm

We could take them to my grandmother's... she has lots of land and lots of food... one Christmas she made almost 50 meat pies...



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02 Jan 2008, 4:17 pm

These kids are committed there by their legal guardians... taking them out without the permission of these legal guardians could amount to kidnapping or 'contributing to the delinquency of a minor' charges.

It's not about what the kids want to do in that case... it's about the legal rights of the legal guardians.

I'm just pointing this out... no judgments on my part here :wink:


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02 Jan 2008, 6:53 pm

There could be a grave mistake letting the guardians, who often understand NOTHING, have the upper hand in this. And besides tht, a lot of the guardians, according to Mother Jones magazine, are either uninformed or lied to. :)



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02 Jan 2008, 7:02 pm

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There could be a grave mistake letting the guardians, who often understand NOTHING, have the upper hand in this. And besides tht, a lot of the guardians, according to Mother Jones magazine, are either uninformed or lied to. :)


Hoo boy, when people look up the world 'quixotic', your picture is there. Now who's your Sancho Panza? Or your Rosinante?


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02 Jan 2008, 10:02 pm

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We could take them to my grandmother's... she has lots of land and lots of food... one Christmas she made almost 50 meat pies...
Only, what will you do if the kids hurt themselves or the people holding them? The sad thing is that their parents often put them into the home in the first place because they are at their wit's end as to what to do about the children's behaviour or they are told that this place will cure them.

The saddest cases where the parents know their kids are being abused but don't do anything about it, quite possibly because they can't care for them at home and there is little other alternative for them. In fact, I would like to see much more funding going into proper respite care rather than prenatal testing and trying to "cure" a condition that can't be cured. Otherwise, burnt out parents and carers will still send their kids into places like the JRC and abusive practices such as electric shocks will still be used.


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03 Jan 2008, 1:53 am

Quatermass! THIS is how you say it... "What you're doing is moronic." THIS is NOT how you say it: "You are a moron." Or, "You are moronic." Thanks for your understanding, honeybunch. :) :heart: :star: :wtg: