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22 May 2008, 5:42 pm

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dumb or not I am totally sure that Ragtime and parakeet would still hate Obama(even if he was genius) to death only because of his islamic roots.

I am saying that based on my observation on this forum and I am 100% sure about it.



2. He is not a Muslim, but he is a liberal Christian.


what part of the word 'roots' you didn't get it?


Roots are irrelevant. I implied that by emphasizing the third person singular masculine nominative pronoun, but it appears your cerebrum is far too minuscule to comprehend such an obvious detail.



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22 May 2008, 6:00 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
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iamnotaparakeet wrote:
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dumb or not I am totally sure that Ragtime and parakeet would still hate Obama(even if he was genius) to death only because of his islamic roots.

I am saying that based on my observation on this forum and I am 100% sure about it.



2. He is not a Muslim, but he is a liberal Christian.


what part of the word 'roots' you didn't get it?


Roots are irrelevant. I implied that by emphasizing the third person singular masculine nominative pronoun, but it appears your cerebrum is far too minuscule to comprehend such an obvious detail.


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dumb or not I am totally sure that Ragtime and parakeet would still hate Obama(even if he was genius) to death only because he is a liberal Christian.

Fixed ;)


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22 May 2008, 6:45 pm

Anyone running for President, particularly if he is front-runner, will always become a target for some amount of joshing.

As ridiculous as some of Obama's gaffes are, though, Ragtime, you are clearly cherry-picking. If I thought that you were doing this for the sake of political humor, which is a time-honored American tradition, I would quite readily laugh with you. Unfortunately, you have a long history as a political bigot, and frankly I think that you are using these gaffes as support for your dumbass prejudices.

Ragtime, you are and always will be a filthy bigot.



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22 May 2008, 7:51 pm

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Ragtime, you are and always will be a filthy bigot.


He's just expressing his conservative Islamophobic views. He has every right to do so. What would this world be without people like him? Boring, I'd say. Must we really create rivalries over something as silly as politics?



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22 May 2008, 8:03 pm

Not only does the Iraq effort reduce the effort against Arabic speaking Qadea types in Afghanistan, it may also reduce the effort against Arabic speaking Qaeda types trying to get into the US. Just came across an article where a top FBI agent testified that only 62% of critical positions had been filled. Especially hard hit: arabic translators.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... _article=1



Yes, the FBI does have a sizable presence in Iraq:

http://www.fbi.gov/page2/june07/iraq062907.htm


Looks like Obama isn't the only person to believe that we can't fully protect the Iraqis over there and the Americans here at the same time.

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." "Mission accomplished."



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22 May 2008, 8:14 pm

Khan_Sama wrote:
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Ragtime, you are and always will be a filthy bigot.


He's just expressing his conservative Islamophobic views. He has every right to do so. What would this world be without people like him? Boring, I'd say. Must we really create rivalries over something as silly as politics?


Petty rivalries are like the entire point of this part of the forum, so no, we can't. But it would be nice if we could at least keep it civil. Even if Ragtime can be a bit exasperating at times, at least in my opinion.



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23 May 2008, 10:59 am

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-- Earlier this month in Cape Girardeau, Mo., Obama showed off his knowledge of the war in Afghanistan by homing in on a lack of translators: "We only have a certain number of them, and if they are all in Iraq, then it's harder for us to use them in Afghanistan." The real reason it's "harder for us to use them" in Afghanistan: Iraqis speak Arabic or Kurdish. The Afghanis speak Pashto, Farsi or other non-Arabic languages.


While the locals in Afghanistan speak Pashto and Farsi, the Al Qaedas there are mostly foreigners from Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Tunisia and Egypt. These all speak Arabic, not Pashto or Farsi. There is competition between Afghanistan and Iraq for US translators of the Arabic language. Criticizing Obama on this displays ignorance and desperation.


Then why did Obama immediately and stammeringly correct himself?

Give it up, monty, he was ignorant either way you look at it. And he's going to be your leader. 8O


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23 May 2008, 11:03 am

LePetitPrince wrote:
dumb or not I am totally sure that Ragtime and parakeet would still hate Obama(even if he was genius) to death only because of his islamic roots.


It's not that we hate him, it's that we fear him becoming our leader.
There's a difference. I have no personal animosity toward the man.
I just think he's incredibly ignorant and professionally/governmentally inexperienced
to become president of the United States. He flip-flops almost every day, and that's a warning sign.

I don't care if our present is a Muslim, so long as he truly loves America more than any other country in the world.


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23 May 2008, 11:21 am

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to become president of the United States. He flip-flops almost every day, and that's a warning sign.


O rly? I know from the evolution threads that you find this concept difficult, but bring us proof. In the John McCain thread, I've brought plenty of proof of his flip-flopping. The only thing that wasn't just a brain-fart on your entire list for Obama is the Iran issue, and that is easily explained - Iran isn't a big threat to America itself, but to the soldiers on the ground in Iraq, and the other neighbouring countries.

Bring us proof of Obama's supposed flip-flopping, or stop making baseless assertions.



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23 May 2008, 1:14 pm

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Jeez, everyone makes gaffes and slips of the tongue. :roll:


Would that be said if the subject were Bush? Heck there are books on Bushisms.


there's a significant difference in frequency between obama and bush.


Also hilarity and the fact that despite hailing from a highly educated New England WASP family GWB prefers to behave like a bumpkin.



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23 May 2008, 4:32 pm

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-- Explaining last week why he was trailing Hillary Clinton in Kentucky, Obama again botched basic geography: "Sen. Clinton, I think, is much better known, coming from a nearby state of Arkansas. So it's not surprising that she would have an advantage in some of those states in the middle." On what map is Arkansas closer to Kentucky than Illinois?

Culturally, you dolt. Arkansas and Kentucky are both southern states, Illinois is a northern state. Illinois and Kentucky may share a geographic border, but in terms of demographics and culture Kentucky is MUCH closer to Arkansas than it is to Illinois.


Way to explain away an obvious misstatement, or quite possibly Obama's ignorance of local geography.
I mean, when a man thinks that 10,000 people died in Kansas in tornados all at once.... you have to wonder how
little he knows about other things.


He said nearby not next to. Illinois is with in close driving distance, they are not exactly far apart. This nitpick is pointless there are much more important things to criticize a politician for.



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23 May 2008, 5:03 pm

you know, the funny thing is i hate obama too but i could care less about his gaffes. the only reason why i care about bush's gaffes are not just because they're mistakes but also because of how he handles himself with the mistakes. it's obvious he's a spoiled brat who's never had to work a day in his life before becoming president and even in how he deals with reports just reeks of richboy arrogance and a lack of sense of responsibility to anyone but himself.



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23 May 2008, 5:19 pm

matsuiny2004 wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
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-- Explaining last week why he was trailing Hillary Clinton in Kentucky, Obama again botched basic geography: "Sen. Clinton, I think, is much better known, coming from a nearby state of Arkansas. So it's not surprising that she would have an advantage in some of those states in the middle." On what map is Arkansas closer to Kentucky than Illinois?

Culturally, you dolt. Arkansas and Kentucky are both southern states, Illinois is a northern state. Illinois and Kentucky may share a geographic border, but in terms of demographics and culture Kentucky is MUCH closer to Arkansas than it is to Illinois.


Way to explain away an obvious misstatement, or quite possibly Obama's ignorance of local geography.
I mean, when a man thinks that 10,000 people died in Kansas in tornados all at once.... you have to wonder how
little he knows about other things.


He said nearby not next to. Illinois is with in close driving distance, they are not exactly far apart. This nitpick is pointless there are much more important things to criticize a politician for.

(Honestly, this debate is awesomely stupid and I must see it continue, but) Why does everyone leap at reinterpreting the sentence so it doesn't sound silly? Most people are s**t awful at geography. Would it be at all surprising if Obama was too? Honestly, I needed to consult a map to check who was closer to Kentucky...

'cause honestly, it's Kentucky. Fer real.


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24 May 2008, 1:34 am

If anything i think his voice would make for interesting announcements. (But hey i'm canadian, so what do i care <.<)



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24 May 2008, 1:54 am

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you know, the funny thing is i hate obama too but i could care less about his gaffes. the only reason why i care about bush's gaffes are not just because they're mistakes but also because of how he handles himself with the mistakes. it's obvious he's a spoiled brat who's never had to work a day in his life before becoming president and even in how he deals with reports just reeks of richboy arrogance and a lack of sense of responsibility to anyone but himself.


Thank you. Disliking Obama's policies for rational reasons is healthy and good for politics - I'm probably going to disagree with you, but at least I'll respect you. However, seeing him nitpicked on every one of his fatigue induced gaffs is very aggrivating.



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24 May 2008, 9:21 pm

Speckles wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
you know, the funny thing is i hate obama too but i could care less about his gaffes. the only reason why i care about bush's gaffes are not just because they're mistakes but also because of how he handles himself with the mistakes. it's obvious he's a spoiled brat who's never had to work a day in his life before becoming president and even in how he deals with reports just reeks of richboy arrogance and a lack of sense of responsibility to anyone but himself.


Thank you. Disliking Obama's policies for rational reasons is healthy and good for politics - I'm probably going to disagree with you, but at least I'll respect you. However, seeing him nitpicked on every one of his fatigue induced gaffs is very aggrivating.

But the responses you get from people when you aggravate them are very educational.


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