Page 5 of 7 [ 103 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next

Fnord
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 May 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 60,953
Location:      

10 Dec 2008, 5:45 pm

Dox47 wrote:
Just what is it about Fnord that seems to draw the dramatic to him, anyway? He's hardly the rudest, most insensitive, or bluntest member on here, but this is the third or fourth time that I can recall having seen someone lose their mind about him and start spewing troll accusations. What's your secret, buddy? I have to put real effort into making people who disagree with me tear at their hair and spit whenever they see my avatar, but it seems to come naturally to you, color me impressed. :lol:

:lol:

I haven't the vaguest idea! I just post what's on my mind and - WHAMO! - I'm the target of vindictive rage.

... And so goes the story of my life as an Asper!


_________________
The mere fact that science may not yet adequately explain an object, event, or experience does not mean the immediate explanation should automatically default to a conspiratorial, extraterrestrial, paranormal, or supernatural cause.


MrMark
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 3 Jul 2006
Age: 68
Gender: Male
Posts: 8,918
Location: Tallahassee, FL

10 Dec 2008, 6:09 pm

You do have a knack for tickin' people off. Reminds me of me. :)


_________________
"The cordial quality of pear or plum
Rises as gladly in the single tree
As in the whole orchards resonant with bees."
- Emerson


Fnord
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 May 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 60,953
Location:      

10 Dec 2008, 6:15 pm

MrMark wrote:
You do have a knack for tickin' people off. Reminds me of me. :)

WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THA ... oh ... right ... a compliment. :)

Thanx! :wink:


_________________
The mere fact that science may not yet adequately explain an object, event, or experience does not mean the immediate explanation should automatically default to a conspiratorial, extraterrestrial, paranormal, or supernatural cause.


Dox47
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Jan 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,670
Location: Seattle-ish

10 Dec 2008, 6:23 pm

Fnord wrote:
:lol:

I haven't the vaguest idea! I just post what's on my mind and - WHAMO! - I'm the target of vindictive rage.

... And so goes the story of my life as an Asper!


I was particularly impressed when a member whom I won't name actually changed their avatar to an anti-Fnord symbol, I mean I know there are people here who don't like me, but I can't seem to inspire that sort of commitment in my detractors. The best I can manage is occasional sniping and what I suspect was a moderator sting operation in PPR, and that might just be my paranoia talking.


_________________
Your boos mean nothing, I've seen what makes you cheer.

- Rick Sanchez


lau
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Jun 2006
Age: 77
Gender: Male
Posts: 9,798
Location: Somerset UK

10 Dec 2008, 6:24 pm

alba wrote:
...
That being said, i believe Fnord's post in PB's thread, which has already been cited, ...

Not to my knowledge. I have no idea where Fnord's offence is supposed to be. I have no idea what it was. I'm beginning to wonder if it ever existed, as no one seems to have said where it is, other than in the general terms of "somewhere in the Haven".

If he did do something against the rules (which includes more than direct attacks), then we'll speak to him about it.

Then again, maybe not, as he has twice apologised, in this thread, for any offence he may have caused, but both times PhilosopherBoi has refued to accept the apology.

This thread should never have existed in the first place, as it constitutes an attack by PhilospherBoi, on Fnord (and the rest of WP, for that matter.)

I will lock this thread, shortly, as I'm beginning to believe that there was no offence at all.


_________________
"Striking up conversations with strangers is an autistic person's version of extreme sports." Kamran Nazeer


Fnord
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 May 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 60,953
Location:      

10 Dec 2008, 6:26 pm

^^ Careful, Dox, old buddy! I don't know who you're referring to, but if they're a banned member, then even discussing their avatar could violate the "Thou shalt not discuss banned members" rule on this website.

Hey! How about them Lakers! Think they have a chance at the championship? :bball:


_________________
The mere fact that science may not yet adequately explain an object, event, or experience does not mean the immediate explanation should automatically default to a conspiratorial, extraterrestrial, paranormal, or supernatural cause.


claire-333
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Jun 2008
Age: 55
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,658

10 Dec 2008, 6:42 pm

mystyc wrote:
I am reminded of how a child in the back seat of a car might taunt his sibling by putting his finger close to his sibling without touching him....It becomes about the one that cries, or the one that yells the loudest, or the one that moves into making the most annoying taunt, or about how both became violent, or even about the one that asks for intervention.
Not me. I never cared who started it. I would pull over and make them both do push-ups on the side of the road. Yeah, that's right; my kids do not mess with me in the car. 8)
Dox47 wrote:
Just what is it about Fnord that seems to draw the dramatic to him, anyway?
It really is kind of funny, right? I once suffered the wrath of the hatred of Fnord by paying him a compliment. :?:



Fnord
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 May 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 60,953
Location:      

10 Dec 2008, 6:52 pm

claire333 wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Just what is it about Fnord that seems to draw the dramatic to him, anyway?
It really is kind of funny, right? I once suffered the wrath of the hatred of Fnord by paying him a compliment. :?:

REALLY?! ! 8O I'm sorry. You've always been so nice to me... :cry:


_________________
The mere fact that science may not yet adequately explain an object, event, or experience does not mean the immediate explanation should automatically default to a conspiratorial, extraterrestrial, paranormal, or supernatural cause.


greenblue
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 Mar 2007
Age: 50
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,896
Location: Home

10 Dec 2008, 6:57 pm

Dox47 wrote:
I was particularly impressed when a member whom I won't name actually changed their avatar to an anti-Fnord symbol,

How about an avatar like this:
Image Image

;)

I kinda like Fnord by the way, I mean, his posts are actually interesting, though I may agree with them I don't actualy agree with how it is addressed even if it is right, either way, he is practicing his freedom of speech, although if he sympathizes with people should be concerned that others also want to enjoy the site as much as he enjoys it.

Fnord wrote:
"I will rebut any other person's fallacious reasoning, non-factual data, and high-handed opinions wherever and whenever I encounter them ..."

well, the issue is that not all people like that kind of criticism, and they could take it as an hostile attack, if that is a missunderstanding, clarifying this is another problem if there is a lack of it, also, from my point of view, it seems the problem of interpretation of intent depends on how the word is addressed, if the same message is done differently it can have a different and better effect on everyone involved, plus, what one considers a fallacy or irrational, another would not consider it as such, so taking that into consideration should be important, and there lies another problem, who believes to be right may actually be wrong, given that I very much agree with this:
MrMark wrote:
I personally think that truth is a pretty illusory and elusive thing. I think that most of what most people hold as truth is actually opinion.


To take this in mind to be able to coexist peacefully in a matter of speaking, should be a a good thing, if you care. It is my view that perhaps you lack diplomatic skills ;)


Quote:
This is amended now with the words, "... except in The Haven."
..........................

Yes, the Haven forum is different, which the nature of it demands to be more careful about what to post there, but you are right, one often don't realise which Discussion is replying to, until it had already done so.


Quote:
... And so goes the story of my life as an Asper!

Yeah, that may be one of the reasons some NTs may not like aspies, as well aspies with other aspies, for that matter.


_________________
?Everything is perfect in the universe - even your desire to improve it.?


Dox47
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Jan 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,670
Location: Seattle-ish

10 Dec 2008, 7:04 pm

I've made a certain philosophical adjustment to my personal outlook that I call "negative appeal". Basically, the idea is that not everyone is going to like me, and that I should use this to my advantage by determining what kinds of people I don't like, and then taking pride when they don't like me either. It sounds a bit weird, but liken it to say Marylin Manson and the Christian right in the mid 90's. The Christians were never going to buy his albums anyway, so he lost nothing by angering them. Plus, the kind of people that might buy his albums were the sorts that would be impressed by the Christians hating him, a win/win situation. I take a similar view on my interactions with others, I don't like people that aren't reasonable, can't accept criticism, have no sense of humor, etc, so I enjoy tweaking their tails a bit and take pride in their animosity. It's like the reverse of being proud of having smart friends, pride in dumb or unreasonable enemies.


_________________
Your boos mean nothing, I've seen what makes you cheer.

- Rick Sanchez


greenblue
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 Mar 2007
Age: 50
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,896
Location: Home

10 Dec 2008, 7:07 pm

Dox47 wrote:
Just what is it about Fnord that seems to draw the dramatic to him, anyway?

I assume it is brutal honesty, some apies know this, which can give them trouble with relationships and people, NTs and other aspies as well.


_________________
?Everything is perfect in the universe - even your desire to improve it.?


MrMark
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 3 Jul 2006
Age: 68
Gender: Male
Posts: 8,918
Location: Tallahassee, FL

10 Dec 2008, 7:20 pm

Quote:
It is my view that perhaps you lack diplomatic skills ;)

I can go along with that. I think it would be nice if we could all just be blunt and direct, and if we all took responsibility for our own feelings instead of blaming someone else when we get bent out of shape. I got mad at a co-worker one day. I apologized later. It wasn't his fault I got mad.


_________________
"The cordial quality of pear or plum
Rises as gladly in the single tree
As in the whole orchards resonant with bees."
- Emerson


Fnord
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 May 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 60,953
Location:      

10 Dec 2008, 7:36 pm

MrMark wrote:
Quote:
It is my view that perhaps you lack diplomatic skills ;)

I can go along with that. I think it would be nice if we could all just be blunt and direct, and if we all took responsibility for our own feelings instead of blaming someone else when we get bent out of shape. I got mad at a co-worker one day. I apologized later. It wasn't his fault I got mad.

"You lack diplomacy" ... I've heard that at from every supervisor I've ever had, including those in the United States Navy! And if they thought I was abrasive ... :pale:

Yet when I try to use diplomacy (as I understand it), I'm told that what I lack is sincerity!

I'll stick with being blunt and direct, and let the folks in Human Resources, Marketting, and Sales handle the diplomatic chores. I'm the guy they bring in to answer technical questions, after the clients and vendors have been softened up and warned that "Fnordie's a little abrasive, but he's a crackerjack engineer!"

(Yes, they've used the word "Crackerjack" ... :roll: )


_________________
The mere fact that science may not yet adequately explain an object, event, or experience does not mean the immediate explanation should automatically default to a conspiratorial, extraterrestrial, paranormal, or supernatural cause.


Javid
Pileated woodpecker
Pileated woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 7 Dec 2005
Age: 39
Gender: Male
Posts: 182
Location: Oregon

10 Dec 2008, 9:27 pm

Dox47 wrote:
I've made a certain philosophical adjustment to my personal outlook that I call "negative appeal". Basically, the idea is that not everyone is going to like me, and that I should use this to my advantage by determining what kinds of people I don't like, and then taking pride when they don't like me either. (...) I don't like people that aren't reasonable, can't accept criticism, have no sense of humor, etc, so I enjoy tweaking their tails a bit and take pride in their animosity. It's like the reverse of being proud of having smart friends, pride in dumb or unreasonable enemies.


I've been doing the same thing for years, nice to see I'm not a complete and utter freak.


_________________
<storms> well why didnt you mute the jerks who called me anoying
<katesmith> i cant mute everyone storms


mystyc
Toucan
Toucan

User avatar

Joined: 21 Jul 2008
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Posts: 251
Location: College Station, Texas

11 Dec 2008, 12:29 am

claire333 wrote:
mystyc wrote:
I am reminded of how a child in the back seat of a car might taunt his sibling by putting his finger close to his sibling without touching him....It becomes about the one that cries, or the one that yells the loudest, or the one that moves into making the most annoying taunt, or about how both became violent, or even about the one that asks for intervention.
Not me. I never cared who started it. I would pull over and make them both do push-ups on the side of the road. Yeah, that's right; my kids do not mess with me in the car. 8)


hah, so I bet your kids are good at push ups now? Though what usually prompts you to pull over? Is it the noise level, distraction, or what?



claire-333
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Jun 2008
Age: 55
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,658

11 Dec 2008, 6:24 pm

It was usually physical conflict or outright defiance that was the deal breaker. Noise and distraction I could deal with just a threat to pull over. I refuse to take sides when both are being jerks. Also, I am an only child and never understood the dynamics of a sibling relationship. Yes. My kids are good at push-ups...also sit-ups, jumping jacks, and running laps around the house. We never cared for spanking and never much understood grounding. Calisthenics was the only thing we could think of to do. Seems to have worked pretty well. They are teens and we still sometimes do it.