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26 Jan 2009, 5:54 pm

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I'm with you on this one, ruveyn. I'm not trying to claim that the Jews, your ancestors, were literally the ones who killed Christ. The methodology was Roman. But you can't tell me that the Jews had absolutely nothing to do with it.

"the Jews"???? Which Jews? Perhaps the corrupt priesthood who were puppets of the Romans. They would make some sense. Perhaps the members of the mob stirred up by agents of the Temple crew or the Romans. That might make some sense. "the Jews" is a collective term and taken literally makes no sense.

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Who sentenced Jesus to death?

Romans did.

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26 Jan 2009, 6:07 pm

The Romans executed him at the behest of the Jews. Jesus was not an enemy of the Roman empire, only their prisoner. The Romans even offered to release Jesus at one point, as a show of good will, but the crowd wanted some guy called Barabas instead.

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26 Jan 2009, 6:22 pm

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so should we blame all Canadians for slaughtering baby seals with baseball bats? what have you done to stop it?

:p

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26 Jan 2009, 6:33 pm

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so should we blame all Canadians for slaughtering baby seals with baseball bats? what have you done to stop it?

:p

Me personally? Nothing.

But I haven't done anything to initiate it, either.

Obviously, modern-day Jewish people are not culpable for the death of Christ. Obviously, no one alive in this century had anything to do with the death of Christ. In any case, Jews and Christians can either look upon each other as enemies or as brothers. We are so intimately and inextricably linked through the person of Jesus Christ.

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26 Jan 2009, 7:13 pm

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anna-banana wrote:

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so should we blame all Canadians for slaughtering baby seals with baseball bats? what have you done to stop it?

:p

All people should look at themselves as being inextricably linked being they are all people. But they don't. Unfortunately.

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26 Jan 2009, 8:49 pm

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"the Jews"????? Ninety percent of whom (at least) lived in the Diaspora and never even heard of Jesus (assuming he existed). Again I ask, which Jews? If you want to blame Herod or a bunch of corrupt priests (Roman puppets all), you might have a case, but "the Jews" as in all of them?

In the last step it was the Romans who put Jesus to death in a Roman manner (or so the story goes).

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27 Jan 2009, 2:41 am

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We just don't know what exactly happened. The so-called Gospel are hardly a reliable source and the few words of Tacitus in his Annals do not give a clue what really happened. But: Knowing the Roman way of treating potential trouble makers, it is very unlikely that the the decision was more than an matter of seconds.

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27 Jan 2009, 2:45 am

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As for Christianity, I do not attend any Christian Church untill I find one that follows the Bible rather than worshipping a pagan Trinity Sun god, Nimrod, or Tammuz, whatever he is known as, Iam looking for the God of Abraham to which I belive the Devil has mislead all religions away from.

I think you better go back to the doctor and have your meds checked. You sound like a gnostic lunatic. Maybe I am wrong, but that is what you sound like.

I should also caution you not to hold your breath until you find what you are looking for. If you do, you will turn blue and faint.

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Now I had got the impression you where Jewish.
The Jews know full well that the God of Abraham is a Mono God, as do the Muslims, that is why so called CHristianity is so unexceptable to them, because the majority of Christians dont worship a Mono God as he who revealed himself to Moses as "One", but they worship a triune god, a three in one god, the same as you will find in the majority of pagan religions.

Why does this make you think Iam a gnostic lunatic?
Jesus himslef said that he would not return untill the Great Apostacy comes first, what do you think the great apostacy might be?

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27 Jan 2009, 3:14 am

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Jesus himslef said that he would not return untill the Great Apostacy comes first, what do you think the great apostacy might be?

Why not not keep silent till your "master" returns. In the meanwhile the more reasonable part of the human race has other things to do.

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27 Jan 2009, 7:03 am

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Jesus himslef said that he would not return untill the Great Apostacy comes first, what do you think the great apostacy might be?

Why not not keep silent till your "master" returns. In the meanwhile the more reasonable part of the human race has other things to do.

That sounds Wittgensteinian.

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

Lebe lang und sei gesundt. (pardon my Yiddish, I am rusty at it)

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27 Jan 2009, 8:45 am

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Jesus himslef said that he would not return untill the Great Apostacy comes first, what do you think the great apostacy might be?

Why not not keep silent till your "master" returns. In the meanwhile the more reasonable part of the human race has other things to do.

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27 Jan 2009, 8:53 am

Who is Nambo's "master?"

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27 Jan 2009, 8:56 am

I think the real Christian God? Apparently you're accidentally worshiping a sun god, slowmutant. At least I think that's what he's saying.

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27 Jan 2009, 9:00 am

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I think the real Christian God? Apparently you're accidentally worshiping a sun god, slowmutant. At least I think that's what he's saying.

Why would Nambo think I'm accidentally worshipping a sun god? Does Nambo have that kind of discernment?

Could someone explain this to me, please?

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27 Jan 2009, 9:09 am

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I think this is as close to a lucid explanation as you're going to get out of him.

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27 Jan 2009, 9:17 am

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I think this is as close to a lucid explanation as you're going to get out of him.

Pity.

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