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Pandora
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17 Sep 2007, 5:03 am

This isn't just a rhetorical question: could somebody tell me why the US is supporting Israel? There has to be something in it for them, even if strategic. I don't really know how to answer the question "should support for Israel be pulled" because I don't have enough information to work with.


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17 Sep 2007, 4:31 pm

Pandora wrote:
This isn't just a rhetorical question: could somebody tell me why the US is supporting Israel? There has to be something in it for them, even if strategic. I don't really know how to answer the question "should support for Israel be pulled" because I don't have enough information to work with.


Read the post right above yours. (Macbeth's)


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17 Sep 2007, 9:59 pm

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Has it occured to anyone that funding israel actually gives the US leverage with the Israelis? If you cut it completely, then they can just tell you where to get off. It wont make any difference what they do, they dont have your support, so they will carry on as they please, and the US will have no bargainig chips other than starting more wars.

Whilst you're paying their way, you at least have something to work with.



what? we'd be in more wars than just in iraq and threatening war with iran? would we be in with lebenon too?



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18 Sep 2007, 9:04 am

skafather84 wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
Has it occured to anyone that funding israel actually gives the US leverage with the Israelis? If you cut it completely, then they can just tell you where to get off. It wont make any difference what they do, they dont have your support, so they will carry on as they please, and the US will have no bargainig chips other than starting more wars.

Whilst you're paying their way, you at least have something to work with.



what? we'd be in more wars than just in iraq and threatening war with iran? would we be in with lebenon too?


Yes, more wars than the ones youve already started. War in Israel, with Israel.. which is what you have resorted to with other nations you lack leverage with. The US severed diplomatic relations with Iran in like 1979.. all you have after that is posturing and threats. Once the oil for food thing was proven to be a load of shite, you moved onto invading Iraq.. so if you lack leverage with the Israeli government when you cut funding, you have little else to fall back on but threats of war.


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18 Sep 2007, 4:22 pm

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israel is the root of why the terrorists hate us. their lobbyists are the only nation that has more lobbyists than most commercial interests, and they've dragged us into more wars than we ever should have been a part of.



discuss.


How dare you say such a thing about your chosen masters.

Israel is a prostitute arrayed in scarlet and fine jewels, America is a wild beast, the Harlot sits on the wild beast as a man sits on a horse, steering it to do his bidding, 1st and 2nd World Wars in order to gain Palestine back for the Jews, the current wars to destroy all the Harlots enemies for her.

Never mind the Federal Reserve where she sucks all the lifeblood out of America.

But dont you dare complain about your enslavement, not unless you want the wrath of the ADL you