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16 Sep 2008, 10:23 pm

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Yes, that seems to be the consensus. A really f***ing huge black hole. It doesn't get much more awesome than that.


What keeps this center-of-the-galaxy black hole stable? Is it stable because there's nothing at the center of the galaxy to cause its expansion or contraction? No really, these are serious questions.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. It can certainly get larger, but it will not contract because a black hole that size radiates much less energy than it gets even from the cosmic background microwave radiation, IIRC.


If it can get larger, this center-of-the-galaxy singularity, what's to keep it from slurping up the Milky Way itself?

Black holes are just black holes. At a distance, they behave just like any other massive body.


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16 Sep 2008, 10:29 pm

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Yes, that seems to be the consensus. A really f***ing huge black hole. It doesn't get much more awesome than that.


What keeps this center-of-the-galaxy black hole stable? Is it stable because there's nothing at the center of the galaxy to cause its expansion or contraction? No really, these are serious questions.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. It can certainly get larger, but it will not contract because a black hole that size radiates much less energy than it gets even from the cosmic background microwave radiation, IIRC.


If it can get larger, this center-of-the-galaxy singularity, what's to keep it from slurping up the Milky Way itself?

well, I don't know much about this, but I think this massive black hole will evaporate but it won't be after millions of years, perhaps billions.


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16 Sep 2008, 11:00 pm

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Yes, that seems to be the consensus. A really f***ing huge black hole. It doesn't get much more awesome than that.


What keeps this center-of-the-galaxy black hole stable? Is it stable because there's nothing at the center of the galaxy to cause its expansion or contraction? No really, these are serious questions.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. It can certainly get larger, but it will not contract because a black hole that size radiates much less energy than it gets even from the cosmic background microwave radiation, IIRC.


If it can get larger, this center-of-the-galaxy singularity, what's to keep it from slurping up the Milky Way itself?

well, I don't know much about this, but I think this massive black hole will evaporate but it won't be after millions of years, perhaps billions.

Using the indispensable Hawking radiation calculator, I have been able to conclude that this is not a worry. It's lifespan is on the order of 10^87 years - an outrageously long time. More importantly, though, is it's temperature is a mere 1.668225e-14K, which is many orders of magnitude cooler than the cosmic microwave background radiation. It isn't getting any smaller.


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17 Sep 2008, 5:03 pm

The Bile is God's Love Letter 2 Humans not a school text book



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17 Sep 2008, 5:05 pm

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The Bile is God's Love Letter 2 Humans not a school text book


That's what I've been trying to get across.



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17 Sep 2008, 5:46 pm

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The Bile is God's Love Letter 2 Humans not a school text book

That's what I've been trying to get across.

Since the Bible is not a text book, then we are to learn nothing from it, right?

It's just a pretty little book, full of pretty little love stories, right?

Not much good for much else, right?

That explains why the Religionists preach hate against sinners in order that they may all know God's love, right?


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17 Sep 2008, 5:51 pm

No.

And I can't believe someone married you.



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17 Sep 2008, 5:54 pm

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No.

No ... what? There were four questions.

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And I can't believe someone married you.

I can't believe it myself sometimes ... she's so wonderful!


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17 Sep 2008, 6:20 pm

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Since the Bible is not a text book, then we are to learn nothing from it, right?

I believe they mean a science school text book.

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It's just a pretty little book, full of pretty little love stories, right?

There is a pretty love story here: Judges 19 :P

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Not much good for much else, right?

The meaning of life and how you should live it.

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That explains why the Religionists preach hate against sinners in order that they may all know God's love, right?

well yes, if you have kids, you have to punish them when they break your rules.


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17 Sep 2008, 6:37 pm

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Since the Bible is not a text book, then we are to learn nothing from it, right?

I believe they mean a science school text book.

Oh, so the Bible has nothing to do with anything that science can explain, right?

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It's just a pretty little book, full of pretty little love stories, right?

There is a pretty love story here: Judges 19 :P

One story. Outnumbered the rest that aren't, starting with the one about Cain and Abel. Besides, your 'love story' is about a man who kept a mistress in the same house as his wife ... then sent the mistress out to be raped ... and having done so, butchered her with a knife ... yeah, real loving relationship there, eh?

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Not much good for much else, right?

The meaning of life and how you should live it.

Then what does your Bible tell us about the meaning of life?

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That explains why the Religionists preach hate against sinners in order that they may all know God's love, right?

well yes, if you have kids, you have to punish them when they break your rules.

And if a person believes that the Bible is just another book, it instructs you to make derisive comments towards him, right?


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17 Sep 2008, 7:00 pm

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Oh, so the Bible has nothing to do with anything that science can explain, right?

well, except from Creationist Science, no. ;)

Anyway, it depends on how someone takes the Bible, if literal or allegorical.

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One story. Outnumbered the rest that aren't, starting with the one about Cain and Abel. Besides, your 'love story' is about a man who kept a mistress in the same house as his wife ... then sent the mistress out to be raped ... and having done so, butchered her with a knife ... yeah, real loving relationship there, eh?

well, that was love in those days :P

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Then what does your Bible tell us about the meaning of life?

Well, I could say most of it may be in the gospels, and that life without God to be without meaning.

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And if a person believes that the Bible is just another book, it instructs you to make derisive comments towards him, right?

I would say to feel sorry for the person or to pray for him or something like that, as he would be doomed for rejecting the truth.


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17 Sep 2008, 7:20 pm

Fnord, what's the logic behind all this derision? This is kiddie-stuff.



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17 Sep 2008, 7:36 pm

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Fnord, what's the logic behind all this derision? This is kiddie-stuff.

Have you run out of pat answers yet? Y'know, the ones that priests and pastors have been giving the dullards in their flocks for the last two-thousand years in order to keep them complacently coming back for more. I've heard them all, in many languages, and yet they're all the same. Tell me...

Who or what do you really hold in your highest regard? Whose spirit really breathes upon the embers of your soul? Where is your faith, man? Where is your faith?


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17 Sep 2008, 7:46 pm

You wouldn't believe me if I told you.

I'm not sure what it is you want from me at this point.



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18 Sep 2008, 2:15 am

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why is there no mathematics in the Bible?


What? Genesis 5 & 11 do, at the very least. Then you have the censuses of Numbers and Samuel, Ezra or Nehemiah has a census too. Anywhere you see the suffix -fold, it refers to multiplication whether poetically or literally. The days, years, seasons referred to in Genesis 1 and 8 are periodic motion by default.... Here are some graphs and tables I've made of Genesis 5 & 11:

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