Thoughts on the Tibet issue.

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But unfortunately it is correct, like also reports about brutal repression in Tibet. Both propagandists telling their half of the true. It is a bit like Hitler pointing to Stalin's Gulag and Stalin is pointing to Hitler's Concentration Camps in the 1930s.

oh yeah? which part? the one about ripping tongues?

The government's human rights record in Tibetan areas of China deteriorated severely during the year. Authorities continued to commit serious human rights abuses, including torture, arbitrary arrest, extrajudicial detention, and house arrest. Official repression of freedoms of speech, religion, association, and movement increased significantly following the outbreak of protests across the Tibetan plateau in the spring. The preservation and development of Tibet's unique religious, cultural, and linguistic heritage continued to be of concern.

For example of the US-Department of State:



More here: http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/20 ... .htm#tibet

or in European Parliament resolution of 10 April 2008 on Tibet:

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/ ... 7_07en.pdf

Dussel, wtf? zyborg was talking about before China "liberated" Tibet, you're quoting documents about Chinese oppression of Tibet and nobody denies that.

I don't believe that what Zyborg said was true, even the language of his post was that of propaganda ("liberating"? come on!). either quote a source that confirms what he said or stop messing around

Let me quote one example of cruelty which occurred as late as 1896. A Shoka trader, undeniably a British subject, had gone over the border, as is customary with them during the summer, to dispose of his merchandise on the Tibetan market. He and another Shoka, also a British subject, had a quarrel. Aware that the first Shoka was wealthy, the Tibetan authorities took this pretext to arrest him and impose upon him an exorbitant fine, besides the additional punishment of two hundred lashes to be administered to him by order of the Jong Pen. The Shoka remonstrated on the plea that he had done no harm, and that being a British subject they had no right to so punish him. The Jong Pen saw his orders executed, and further commanded his men to cut off the wretched prisoner's hands. He was made over to two soldiers entrusted with the carrying out of the sentence. They led him away to the place of punishment. The Shoka was of a powerful build and possessed courage. Though half dead and covered with wounds, he overcame his guardians and escaped. The alarm was instantly given and a large party of horsemen sent to capture him.

They caught him up, and when at close range fired on him and wounded him in the knee, smashing the kneecap. He was surrounded, pounced upon, beaten mercilessly, and last but not least, all his fingers were one by one crushed into pulp between two heavy stones. In this condition he was dragged before the Lamas, only to be decapitated! Mr. Sturt, an able and just officer, who was then Deputy Commissioner at Almora, became acquainted with these facts, and, having fully ascertained their accuracy, reported them to the Government, strongly advising immediate action against the Tibetans for this and other cruelties that were constantly taking place on our frontier. Though it was undeniably proved that the victim was a British subject, the Government of India took no steps in the matter.

I would have kicked the butts of the Brits back in those times too if I had the chance