Why the drug war is a legitimate war against terrorism

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I was on-topic with my original response

Was not talking about you, unless you changed your name. Everyone seems the same, text things.

I'd put the imaginery policy in use for harsher more dangerious drugs..

LOL

It's a SCI-FI Thriller Dudes!

Well soon as people think nano-technology is governmental tracking devices or for reasons other then what it does currently, people would go nuts.

Who took my post seriously about Nano?
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Really the catch 22 (no matter what it is bad) is the the distribution chains. The only ways to get rid of it is by replacing it.

The more it is outlawed the higher the prices, the burden on tax payers and the vicious cycle is what it is.

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."-Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania (1759)

The project for a new american century. Do you know about this?

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A blind freedom is a freedom of its own demise.

A seeing freedom keeps its freedom and is a strong freedom.

You know what we got when we gave up "some" of our freedoms to try to improve the drug situation?

We got severely curtailed freedoms, and we did indeed get a new and improved drug situation with new and improved drugs.

You know what we will get when we give up more freedoms?

That many fewer freedoms, more drug users and more destruction caused by drug users.

Yes, including President Bush and the psychological drug of religion..

None of this is winning anything.. Just changing distribution chains stopping the organized criminals.

Yet crime from the individual would go up, drug users rob places.

Seems criminals want freedoms to do crimes while others suffer for their freedoms. Namely tax payers, innocent by-standards and of course themselves in pitty addiction patterns funding criminals.

lool

The easiest way to screw up a system is to make it do its job, without intelligence or governance, until it blows itself apart. The idea of restraint, of controlling our responses to situations, has been made unpopular. I've been seeing a lot of it for the past forty years, where an uncontrolled, angry, hysterical response seems to be the only response allowed to common situations where someone fears that the situation will be "out of control."

The rush to judgement and the rush to action are destroying us, no matter how much you might think it is moral. It is very literally as if society has declared that it will commit suicide unless people stop using illicit drugs. People who insist on doing this won't stop until they succeed in committing suicide, no matter what excuse they have to use.

I often feel that we are already dead.

Morals have become a bad word. I think this is because of the rebellion mentality. Establishment sets forth certain morals, gives examples and sets forth the law.

The reason why common sense is not found in government as a whole, is because its all special interest I think. Someone must know someone to get elected, those knowing others elected by knowing others and it is unpopular to at times do what is wise.

For instance the way this country reacted on 9/11 was wrong. VERY wrong and quite frankly insane, un-American and of disorder, saying this is not a mistake.

There was no need to go into Afghanistan for one guy.

There was no need to go into Iraq.

Strategically these acts have put a strategic disempowerment over the shadows of America.

President Bush well is the reason to some of the madness. Be vigilant, pay attention to the colors for the terror alerts. Hysteria and I cannot wait for the sanity of governance to return, for god sakes vote democrat.

Those drunken monkey republicans keep spending money and cutting programs. The monkey's need to sober up and realize just how unwise they are and how there decisions have put the powers of what the united states was strategically and militarily in reduction and have spread it thin..

Oh, I might have just made the list! I disagree with king of the monkeys.

The mentality of the monkeys however is the belief in some, especially the delusion that God will return and the end is to come and all that blah blah delusion. It's part of the collective psychopatholgy of those who support the hidden madness of the king monkey.

A need for a new polical landscape, that of the rational and neutral belief.

"Nothing could be more unwise for a free people at any time, under any cirumstances, to give up their rights under the vain hope and miserable delusion that they might thereby be enabled to defend them." Alexander H Stevens VP CSA 1861-1865


But I ask, what freedoms are we loosing by giving up illegal drugs anyhow?

Times have changed since that old fart was around. No insult intended but really is it that bad to give the government total surveillance powers to protect it's people against terrorism only? Terrorism as in major events.. They need to have it, the internet is not yours or mine, it’s really no ones.. It your choice to be on it...

Other then that, tell me... the wiring tapping policy, is it really that bad? What stops you from speaking / typing and expressing as usual becuase of it?

Also I would support a panel of judges that will review actively all investigations as they happen. They must respond immediately to potential danger any way. Without that ability people would feel damn dumb if a potential threat came to be and could not respond becuase of some complaint that is truelly invalid concerning civil liberities.

Computers and information technologies did not exist then.


Go ahead, let's talk about this subject, I'll start with this point of view.

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But I ask, what freedoms are we loosing by giving up illegal drugs anyhow?
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None really, just the ability to reduce oneself in health and take prescribed medications without professional prescriptions from trained and authorized persons.

With drugs of a harsher nature, America and the world will save countless billions and increase the quality of life of countless millions of individuals.[/b]

Jesus Christ.

Well its had quite the opposite effect so far. The more $ they pour into enforcement, the more suffering they create.

You are labouring under the misconceptions that;

a) drug trafficking is in general linked to 'terrorism' - for the most part its run just like any other import/export business. Greedy people do it to get rich. Peasant farmers do it to feed their children.

b) the primary aim of the powers that be is to serve the public well-being, rather than to monopolize power and boosting profit.

Youve been banging on about this terrorism link long enough now, you ought to provide some validation for it.

Hint: all mainstream media networks are ultimately influenced by the same group of people and not everything they tell you is actually true

You’ve been banging on about this terrorism link long enough now, you ought to provide some validation for it.
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I was told by a person who would know. For certain, yes.

It is no ones opinion but mine that the following needs to be done:

1. That nanotechnologies combined with satellite and cellular perhaps for tracking. It would be a substance sprayed on and it would give data to every locations and small part distributed in every city in America. IT would just show up given quantity and density.

2. Instead of going to jail people would be offered newer and respectable treatment facilities. I'd prefer them built somewhere in the mountain areas or in nature where its very peaceful. They could be bussed there during the phases of withdrawal given more privileges. As time went on doing drugs would be to likely of going back. they would just be picked up.

3. Further investment into re-integration programs for employment and independent living that is respectable for the ones that need help with that.

4. Eventually there would be no war on drugs.

5. The distribution chains for organized crime, drug profits to gangs and wrecked homes due to drugs would be terminated all together. Social service systems relieved and lives improved.

Nathan

thats it?

Yeah, for certain too. I just asked today.

Well you cant expect us to accept a seemingly non-sensical proposition on the basis of 'someone told me so', especially if you dont even name the source.

He's retired... He would not lie. Did it for years. Drug money has been known to fund terrorism.