9/11 a staged attack

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Good to see you back to normal Jimservo!

Dude, what makes us any different than any other group of people throughout history? History repeats itself time and again, and no, your not an exception, and the world doesn't spin on you. It's happened to Germans, Russians, Cubans, Chinese, Africans, Argentines, Greeks, Italians, Libyans, Iraqis, Iranians, just because we're America or because "you live here at this place in this time" does not mean that the world will stop and wait for you, just like it didn't stop for Moishe in Germany in 1937 (random example).
What is the point in people taking history coarses if they refuse to apply it in real life? There are too many things adding up to dismiss a conspiracy. History is in the proccess of repeating itself as we speak. And yes, they want you to think that it's just some "sci-fi conspiracy geek" stuff, they've made you think this by putting it all over the sci-fi channel and this kind of crap, it's called propaganda.
I don't care what kind of supposed checks and balances they have, history makes it clear that politics can be worked around in the ascention of a goal, be the goal good or bad. Bush isn't gonna make america into a dictatorship, but he did lay the groundwork. Hillary will further it, Jeb Bush might be the 1st American dictator.
But some people I suppose drink the sci-fi kool-aid so much that no amount of evidence will equal dogsquat in their minds.
Given human genetic structure, it shouldn't be too hard to believe. People are tribalist, primative animals. Factor in modern capitolism to further push these evolutionary traits along to encourage animal behavior, and what do you have? A new world order. Have fun working in the sweat shops, but don't complain about the wages, they might gas you for it.

I do not dismiss conspiracies in general. Certainly bad people group together to get done what individuals cannot. However, some of this lot is silly.
I like the claim that a large aircraft cannot simply disappear. i well recall a hijacked BAE 146 that piled into CA in a high speed vertical dive. The scene looked like a flat burned spot with bits of pop cans lying about. Not much survives a straight 600mph blow. and bear in mind that certain things like explosions and high energy crashes can behave in unpredictable ways and comp sims do not always work.

It's nice to see everyone argee on something for a change.

I agree about the people mis-analyzing the plane hitting the WTC, but I do think there was foul play involved politically. I think Bush had a hand in it.

the sincere ones will get it,the ones who have their closets full of skelletons the wicked will not so ill keep spreading the truth about 911 like i am,about what u showed me jim,its all government stuff and i wont waste my time with their lies,ill be waiting for the day of truth when we will see who was crazy.
peace

Are you in Spain?

no im in the wrong planet!
why u ask that,pm me if u are serious,i dont even know if ur joking.....that was a random question.
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You said your parents speak Spanish and your Islamic so I thought there is a high
percent chance your in Spain.

Anyway my point is what is your theory on Spain's "911" the train bombing.

ok now i have to sleep,no im not from spain and im just somebody who found islam,my parents are different.im in the usa,in a place where the official language is spanish though .

i heard the way the train exploded was from down the train like the bomb wasnt inside the train car(ill get some prove later on)...also london 7/7,they were having some drill the same day with the same stations at the same time,ill get the youtube video later on...

going to sleep

peace

I'm more curious who you think did the bombing and why?

US intelligence had multiple warnings of an attack, from different sources, many from friendly countries/agencies and some quite explicit in their detail, going so far as to name individual hijackers;

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/time ... telligence

There was even a photo of one of the dossiers being handed over in Michael Moores film IIRC.

Hell, even Alex Jones predicted it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXJRg4Vh0kc (check 01.30 + 02.10)

This information alone makes the 'coincidence theorists' position far less tenable imo.

They thought no one would attack us.

Like the Jews in Europe didn't believe the Holocaust was happening untill they got sent to the camps themselves.

It is absolutely the case the the US had multiple warnings of an attack. However, the the vast majority of intelligence about terrorist attacks that turns out to be false. It seems clear in retrospect that most/all the intelligence reports you linked to did involve the 9/11 attacks. However those reports include scattered information and did not cover the exact specifics of the attack. Turning planes into bombs does not equal flying planes into buildings (let alone a specific buildings). Anti-terrorism authorities logically could have assumed this was similar to a foiled plot by al-Qaida, which would have killed thousands of people, planned before 9/11, and involved blowing up a dozen airplanes over the Pacific ocean, or a more conventional hijacking rather then something unprecedented.

Naming the hijackers is not the same as knowing where they are, and before 9/11 there were walls between CIA and FBI that prevented the sharing of information. There are suspected terrorists in the United States right now, including one who is believed to want to set off a dirty bomb. They were let in by inept State Department immigration people, as well as just illegally crossing the border.

One problem with this entire conspiracy theory is it's skewed view of the world. People like Osama Bin Laden, with their hatred of the United States, do in fact exist. The World Trade Center was attacked by Islamists in 1993 with the intention of toppling it. Their was a plan to bomb the New York Subway system during the trial of the WTC bomber. Why is it necessary to believe that George Bush is involved, regardless of what you think of his policies? Aren't there actual people in the world that would be perfectly willing to take such actions for their own reasons? Why would the President of the UNited States risk charges of treason and an execution (which I would support, BTW), if he was proved to be involved? What would be the point?

For people with access to UK TV there is a documentary on this subject on BBC 2 Sunday @ 9pm. Programme is called The Conspiracy Files. Once its been shown I think there will be highlights on this website

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/c ... efault.stm

thats what we all ask when we find out why 911 happened,but it wasnt bush,inside job does not mean american citizens either,they are a group that infiltrated each year more and more till they have so much power to carry out such attacks that seem like conspiracies,911 was an excuse to whats going on now,afghanistan,iraq,america,have u seen how peaceful was the usa before 911? it was a good place,now its a police state and theres even more violence and crime.


madrid bombing
happened on 3/11...9/11 u said? no 3/11 similar...there are cameras but no videos of the the "terrorists",also,it is a fact people of high and low ranks saying aznar destroyed the evidence,but the judicial court says its not like that,of course they work together,snitches get stitches.

also buildings dont collapse because of fire,and the hotter the fire the less thick smoke there is,black smoke is a weak fire and the wtc was burning for one hour and some minutes and it came down at the speed of gravity,jet fuel or not,4 or 10 floors of fire do not make a building collapse,the pancake theory its imposible,this is not a deck of cards this is a building with a steel core.


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