27 Aug 2007, 9:10 am
27 Aug 2007, 9:15 am
Macbeth wrote:
wiggerbeater wrote:
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To Wiggerbeater: The very fact that you can travel 100 miles here and find a completely different country with completely different customs, languages, history and architechture makes us more diverse than somewhere you can travel the same distance and still be in the same state. In fact its quite possible to travel 10 miles here and find very different cultures, accents, stories and points of view. THe fact that most of the buildings in the UK alone outdate your whole nation, and that there are more historically significant artifacts on my street than you'll find digging up ten square miles says a great deal.
LOL ya. We have states bigger than most countries in Europe. I know travelling from Switzerland to Italy or Luxembourg must be a huge culture shock.
Or you can travel from England to France, where everbody is still white, both countries have the same imperial history, fought in the same wars, and listen to the same American music while surfing American websites. That goes for just about any country in Europe.I love how you always must reach into the past to find any glory about your country. It must be so disheartening.
And I love how you obviously have NO idea about Europe. I suppose we all have cockney accents and live in castles as well do we?
Having big states means jackshit. Its just a larger area to be the same in. Everybody is far from being all white anywhere in Europe, and you seriously overestimate how popular your american sh** actually is. Read my post again to see how UN-homogenous we are.
At least we have a history, my friend, and a damn long one. Like all countries, we have a chequered past, with glorious victories and ignominious defeats. Dont forget that Europeans at one point or another have conquered most of the world. Hows your empire building going? Oh yeah, its not. You cant even handle police actions without getting spanked. Thats not hugely glorious is it?
And wasnt Elvis inspired by Black music? That would be originating in Africa then, not America. Oh, and tea might be a chinese/indian thing, but who exported it world wide? Was it you? No, it wasnt.
Hubris and arrogance always lead to a downfall. Now how about you stop showing up all the Americans who arent arrogant self-centered ill-educated gits. (Of course ill-educated isnt actually your fault, as its a notorious fact that American history lessons are more than a little inaccurate.) .
Actually we have troops based in almost every country on earth. We are the hands down leader in military, political, economic, and cultural power. We are the only superpower on earth, and have no peers. It's very hard to take serious your posts about not being interested in american culture, when you are typing it on an American website. America is the world's guilty pleasure. We are the world's largest cultural exporter. We are the best at selling our things. From the sublime to the ridiculous. You have obviously bought into it.
27 Aug 2007, 2:13 pm
wiggerbeater wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
wiggerbeater wrote:
Quote:
To Wiggerbeater: The very fact that you can travel 100 miles here and find a completely different country with completely different customs, languages, history and architechture makes us more diverse than somewhere you can travel the same distance and still be in the same state. In fact its quite possible to travel 10 miles here and find very different cultures, accents, stories and points of view. THe fact that most of the buildings in the UK alone outdate your whole nation, and that there are more historically significant artifacts on my street than you'll find digging up ten square miles says a great deal.
LOL ya. We have states bigger than most countries in Europe. I know travelling from Switzerland to Italy or Luxembourg must be a huge culture shock.
Or you can travel from England to France, where everbody is still white, both countries have the same imperial history, fought in the same wars, and listen to the same American music while surfing American websites. That goes for just about any country in Europe.I love how you always must reach into the past to find any glory about your country. It must be so disheartening.
And I love how you obviously have NO idea about Europe. I suppose we all have cockney accents and live in castles as well do we?
Having big states means jackshit. Its just a larger area to be the same in. Everybody is far from being all white anywhere in Europe, and you seriously overestimate how popular your american sh** actually is. Read my post again to see how UN-homogenous we are.
At least we have a history, my friend, and a damn long one. Like all countries, we have a chequered past, with glorious victories and ignominious defeats. Dont forget that Europeans at one point or another have conquered most of the world. Hows your empire building going? Oh yeah, its not. You cant even handle police actions without getting spanked. Thats not hugely glorious is it?
And wasnt Elvis inspired by Black music? That would be originating in Africa then, not America. Oh, and tea might be a chinese/indian thing, but who exported it world wide? Was it you? No, it wasnt.
Hubris and arrogance always lead to a downfall. Now how about you stop showing up all the Americans who arent arrogant self-centered ill-educated gits. (Of course ill-educated isnt actually your fault, as its a notorious fact that American history lessons are more than a little inaccurate.) .
Actually we have troops based in almost every country on earth. We are the hands down leader in military, political, economic, and cultural power. We are the only superpower on earth, and have no peers. It's very hard to take serious your posts about not being interested in american culture, when you are typing it on an American website. America is the world's guilty pleasure. We are the world's largest cultural exporter. We are the best at selling our things. From the sublime to the ridiculous. You have obviously bought into it.
Yeah, OK. Tell that to the Chinese. Carry on believing you're the only superpower. Keep thinking that your army is the bestest and hardest and meanest in the world, whilst people with AK47s and pyjamas own your "elite" forces.
Oh, and do you really think that just because a website is hosted by America, and that people post on it, that means we all buy into american culture wholesale? Its not as if this site even involves the wonders of your culture anyway. Most of the posts I see about the good old USA are people IN the USA complaining about the USA, and its activities abroad, or its treatment of its citizens, or its monkey president, or the way it spends your taxes.
Its funny how few things I see for sale over here that are American made. Coke, McDonalds and Starbucks.. our shelves are full of produce from a lot of places, but very little of it is American, and most of the stuff that is is made under license in Taiwan or China anyway. Funny how so few of the cars on our roads are american too. In fact, I can go for days without seeing american goods. Go exporters!
You do realise that above and beyond your dubious military activities, one of the main reasons why many people hate americans is because of the mouthy, arrogant "we are the best at everything in the world" attitudes some of you display. Every forum, every irc channel, they all have at least one gobby yank telling everyone how great his country is, and its usually down to a complete lack of knowledge of the rest of the world.
Ahh, the arrogance of youth eh? Give it another hundred years or so and people might actually care.
27 Aug 2007, 2:27 pm
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27 Aug 2007, 6:26 pm
27 Aug 2007, 10:17 pm
Macbeth wrote:
wiggerbeater wrote:
Quote:
To Wiggerbeater: The very fact that you can travel 100 miles here and find a completely different country with completely different customs, languages, history and architechture makes us more diverse than somewhere you can travel the same distance and still be in the same state. In fact its quite possible to travel 10 miles here and find very different cultures, accents, stories and points of view. THe fact that most of the buildings in the UK alone outdate your whole nation, and that there are more historically significant artifacts on my street than you'll find digging up ten square miles says a great deal.
LOL ya. We have states bigger than most countries in Europe. I know travelling from Switzerland to Italy or Luxembourg must be a huge culture shock.
Or you can travel from England to France, where everbody is still white, both countries have the same imperial history, fought in the same wars, and listen to the same American music while surfing American websites. That goes for just about any country in Europe.I love how you always must reach into the past to find any glory about your country. It must be so disheartening.
And I love how you obviously have NO idea about Europe. I suppose we all have cockney accents and live in castles as well do we?
Having big states means jackshit. Its just a larger area to be the same in. Everybody is far from being all white anywhere in Europe, and you seriously overestimate how popular your american sh** actually is. Read my post again to see how UN-homogenous we are.
At least we have a history, my friend, and a damn long one. Like all countries, we have a chequered past, with glorious victories and ignominious defeats. Dont forget that Europeans at one point or another have conquered most of the world. Hows your empire building going? Oh yeah, its not. You cant even handle police actions without getting spanked. Thats not hugely glorious is it?
And wasnt Elvis inspired by Black music? That would be originating in Africa then, not America. Oh, and tea might be a chinese/indian thing, but who exported it world wide? Was it you? No, it wasnt.
Hubris and arrogance always lead to a downfall. Now how about you stop showing up all the Americans who arent arrogant self-centered ill-educated gits. (Of course ill-educated isnt actually your fault, as its a notorious fact that American history lessons are more than a little inaccurate.) .
Most Americans are European-descended, which means that, past the 1800s, European Americans' descendants have just as much claim as yours did.
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27 Aug 2007, 10:39 pm
27 Aug 2007, 11:25 pm
Chuchulainn wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
wiggerbeater wrote:
Quote:
To Wiggerbeater: The very fact that you can travel 100 miles here and find a completely different country with completely different customs, languages, history and architechture makes us more diverse than somewhere you can travel the same distance and still be in the same state. In fact its quite possible to travel 10 miles here and find very different cultures, accents, stories and points of view. THe fact that most of the buildings in the UK alone outdate your whole nation, and that there are more historically significant artifacts on my street than you'll find digging up ten square miles says a great deal.
LOL ya. We have states bigger than most countries in Europe. I know travelling from Switzerland to Italy or Luxembourg must be a huge culture shock.
Or you can travel from England to France, where everbody is still white, both countries have the same imperial history, fought in the same wars, and listen to the same American music while surfing American websites. That goes for just about any country in Europe.I love how you always must reach into the past to find any glory about your country. It must be so disheartening.
And I love how you obviously have NO idea about Europe. I suppose we all have cockney accents and live in castles as well do we?
Having big states means jackshit. Its just a larger area to be the same in. Everybody is far from being all white anywhere in Europe, and you seriously overestimate how popular your american sh** actually is. Read my post again to see how UN-homogenous we are.
At least we have a history, my friend, and a damn long one. Like all countries, we have a chequered past, with glorious victories and ignominious defeats. Dont forget that Europeans at one point or another have conquered most of the world. Hows your empire building going? Oh yeah, its not. You cant even handle police actions without getting spanked. Thats not hugely glorious is it?
And wasnt Elvis inspired by Black music? That would be originating in Africa then, not America. Oh, and tea might be a chinese/indian thing, but who exported it world wide? Was it you? No, it wasnt.
Hubris and arrogance always lead to a downfall. Now how about you stop showing up all the Americans who arent arrogant self-centered ill-educated gits. (Of course ill-educated isnt actually your fault, as its a notorious fact that American history lessons are more than a little inaccurate.) .
Most Americans are European-descended, which means that, past the 1800s, European Americans' descendants have just as much claim as yours did.
To some events, possibly, but that precludes events occuring after that date somewhat, and is no excuse for overbearing "americans rule the world" propaganda. Its just a country, like any other, with its own upsides and downsides, and its fortunes will wax and wane, as do everybody elses. Its main advantages in post war years have sprung from its relative geographical isolation,coupled with its size, large population, and access to internal sources of base materials. Thus we have a large manufacturing base spared it the ravages of two successive world wars. This left it with an undamaged financial and economic grounding, giving it an advantage that other nations more directly involved could not have had. Postwar economic neo-colonialism and the response to the perceived communist threat have given rise to its "power" as a superpower.
Congratulations for doing well
However, the belief in american superiority over all others is an unsubstantiated myth, and such posturing, and "Global Policing" has not had the stabilizing effect on world politics that they might have hoped. This form of heavyhandedness breeds resentment amongst both enemies and allies, and whilst earning the scorn and resentment of your foe is not unusual, to cause it in your friends is an easy way to lose those friends. The young europeans who get told that their countries suck, are utterly subservient to the requirements of Uncle Sam, and owe their existence or freedoms to the GIs and Marine Corps today, are like as not, the politicians and voters of tomorrow. Some of us are already voting anyway. Others remember what America has done, or not done, and how helpful some of it hasnt been.
With the knowledge of the world only a google away, the lie can be put to almost any propaganda, and patronizing "we rule the world" BS easily put down.
(And lets be clear. I dont hate America, or Americans. Some of my best friends are Americans. I'm just tidying up a few irksome details.)
27 Aug 2007, 11:48 pm
28 Aug 2007, 12:01 am
Macbeth wrote:
Chuchulainn wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
wiggerbeater wrote:
Quote:
To Wiggerbeater: The very fact that you can travel 100 miles here and find a completely different country with completely different customs, languages, history and architechture makes us more diverse than somewhere you can travel the same distance and still be in the same state. In fact its quite possible to travel 10 miles here and find very different cultures, accents, stories and points of view. THe fact that most of the buildings in the UK alone outdate your whole nation, and that there are more historically significant artifacts on my street than you'll find digging up ten square miles says a great deal.
LOL ya. We have states bigger than most countries in Europe. I know travelling from Switzerland to Italy or Luxembourg must be a huge culture shock.
Or you can travel from England to France, where everbody is still white, both countries have the same imperial history, fought in the same wars, and listen to the same American music while surfing American websites. That goes for just about any country in Europe.I love how you always must reach into the past to find any glory about your country. It must be so disheartening.
And I love how you obviously have NO idea about Europe. I suppose we all have cockney accents and live in castles as well do we?
Having big states means jackshit. Its just a larger area to be the same in. Everybody is far from being all white anywhere in Europe, and you seriously overestimate how popular your american sh** actually is. Read my post again to see how UN-homogenous we are.
At least we have a history, my friend, and a damn long one. Like all countries, we have a chequered past, with glorious victories and ignominious defeats. Dont forget that Europeans at one point or another have conquered most of the world. Hows your empire building going? Oh yeah, its not. You cant even handle police actions without getting spanked. Thats not hugely glorious is it?
And wasnt Elvis inspired by Black music? That would be originating in Africa then, not America. Oh, and tea might be a chinese/indian thing, but who exported it world wide? Was it you? No, it wasnt.
Hubris and arrogance always lead to a downfall. Now how about you stop showing up all the Americans who arent arrogant self-centered ill-educated gits. (Of course ill-educated isnt actually your fault, as its a notorious fact that American history lessons are more than a little inaccurate.) .
Most Americans are European-descended, which means that, past the 1800s, European Americans' descendants have just as much claim as yours did.
To some events, possibly, but that precludes events occuring after that date somewhat, and is no excuse for overbearing "americans rule the world" propaganda. Its just a country, like any other, with its own upsides and downsides, and its fortunes will wax and wane, as do everybody elses. Its main advantages in post war years have sprung from its relative geographical isolation,coupled with its size, large population, and access to internal sources of base materials. Thus we have a large manufacturing base spared it the ravages of two successive world wars. This left it with an undamaged financial and economic grounding, giving it an advantage that other nations more directly involved could not have had. Postwar economic neo-colonialism and the response to the perceived communist threat have given rise to its "power" as a superpower.
Congratulations for doing well
However, the belief in american superiority over all others is an unsubstantiated myth, and such posturing, and "Global Policing" has not had the stabilizing effect on world politics that they might have hoped. This form of heavyhandedness breeds resentment amongst both enemies and allies, and whilst earning the scorn and resentment of your foe is not unusual, to cause it in your friends is an easy way to lose those friends. The young europeans who get told that their countries suck, are utterly subservient to the requirements of Uncle Sam, and owe their existence or freedoms to the GIs and Marine Corps today, are like as not, the politicians and voters of tomorrow. Some of us are already voting anyway. Others remember what America has done, or not done, and how helpful some of it hasnt been.
With the knowledge of the world only a google away, the lie can be put to almost any propaganda, and patronizing "we rule the world" BS easily put down.
(And lets be clear. I dont hate America, or Americans. Some of my best friends are Americans. I'm just tidying up a few irksome details.)
How is American superiority an unsubstantiated myth? Is our status as a lone superpower a myth? Do you honestly not think the US is the greatest military, scientific, economic, political, and cultural force on earth? Give me a break. Not all countries are equal.
Seventeen of the top 20 universities in the world are American, as are 35 of the top 50. American universities employ 70% of the world's living Nobel prize-winners, produce about 30% of the world's output of articles on science and engineering and 44% of the most frequently cited articles.
28 Aug 2007, 12:08 am
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28 Aug 2007, 12:17 am
28 Aug 2007, 12:24 am
28 Aug 2007, 12:28 am
The_Chosen_One wrote:
Who cares? the FOUNDER is from British Columbia, hence it is a CANADIAN site.
Here's some things that the Americans did NOT pioneer:
Steam Engine - Robert Stevenson (British)
Telephone - Alexander Graeme Bell (Scottish)
Flight - Montgolfier Brothers (French) - Don't care about powered flight, it was the first flight.
Television - James Logie Baird (Scottish)
First Heart Transplant - Dr Christiaan Barnard (South African)
Radar - British
Cochlear Implant and Bionic Ear - Australian
Radio - Marconi (Italian)
Internal Combustion Engine and Car - Daimler & Benz (German)
Space Travel and Exploration - Sputnik (Russian 1957), Yuri Gagarin (Russian 1961) and Mir Space-station Russian 1986) Skylab, although launched in 1973 by the US was a failed attempt and crashed out of orbit in 1979, and was hardly used.
Also, the rockets used were pioneered in Germany with the V1 and V2 design.
That is only some of the inventions and concepts that WERE NOT pioneered by Americans. There are plenty of others, but I would need to do some more checking.
Here's some things that the Americans did NOT pioneer:
Steam Engine - Robert Stevenson (British)
Telephone - Alexander Graeme Bell (Scottish)
Flight - Montgolfier Brothers (French) - Don't care about powered flight, it was the first flight.
Television - James Logie Baird (Scottish)
First Heart Transplant - Dr Christiaan Barnard (South African)
Radar - British
Cochlear Implant and Bionic Ear - Australian
Radio - Marconi (Italian)
Internal Combustion Engine and Car - Daimler & Benz (German)
Space Travel and Exploration - Sputnik (Russian 1957), Yuri Gagarin (Russian 1961) and Mir Space-station Russian 1986) Skylab, although launched in 1973 by the US was a failed attempt and crashed out of orbit in 1979, and was hardly used.
Also, the rockets used were pioneered in Germany with the V1 and V2 design.
That is only some of the inventions and concepts that WERE NOT pioneered by Americans. There are plenty of others, but I would need to do some more checking.
Well the address says the US. The site's address is american, and Plank's address is american. I think it is safe to say it is an American site.
And wow, you can name things that werent invented by the US. I thought the US invented everything. 
Just like Europeans invented tea and pasta. And Hoover dropped the A Bomb on Japan.
lol. Alex went to high school in Virginia. Where do you get that he is Canadian?
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