Does a Man really have to go out and by $150 Jeans etc?

Page 2 of 3 [ 38 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next

whitetiger
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 3 Feb 2009
Age: 52
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,702
Location: Oregon

29 May 2009, 8:35 am

I pay $4-6 for used jeans that look new. I'm not middle class though. I'm on SSDI. But, I have bought Gloria Vanderbilt's for that price at thrift stores.


_________________
I am a very strange female.

http://www.youtube.com/user/whitetigerdream

Don't take life so seriously. It isn't permanent!


1234
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Apr 2009
Age: 34
Gender: Female
Posts: 630

29 May 2009, 8:39 am

what does this have to do with love and dating?


I'm not a man, but I don't buy expensive clothes because I look down on cheaper clothes.
I buy expensive clothes every now and then 'cause it's what fits me best.
With a lot of the cheaper clothes (e.g. H&M as someone mentioned earlier), not a lot of thought is put in the fit/flow of it. It's just a standard model that's used over and over and over and usually it's only the skinny flat chested girls that get to wear it and look good in it.

I have a hell of a hard time looking for jeans (and t-shirts etc. btw) that actually fit me, in the end i had to opt for men's jeans (which I'm ttly cool with, as long as it fits and looks okay). But the jeans that finally did fit me cost like 125 euro.
Which is a bit of a steep price, but seeing that I'll be enjoying my jeans for years on end, I don't think it's that much to pay.

You DON'T HAVE to buy expensive jeans etc., you buy what you like. But if you happen to find something that's a bit more expensive, but it makes you look/feel really good and if you know you'll enjoy it for a long time... if it's in your budget, I'd say go for it.



JohnHopkins
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Nov 2007
Age: 32
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,463

29 May 2009, 9:04 am

I've never spent more than $30 on jeans, and I've had a reasonable amount of success.



Aspinator
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Age: 65
Gender: Male
Posts: 626
Location: AspinatorLand

29 May 2009, 9:44 am

Personally, I couldn't afford to pay that much for jeans but a rule of thumb I use is that if it doesn't hurt me and it is important to another person, who gives a rat



Zoonic
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Posts: 572

29 May 2009, 9:45 am

Another thing is just the feeling. A cotton shirt from H&M usually feels like it's made from a piece of sailor-sack hemp which has first been heavily starched. It feels like wearing a lego cube rather than a shirt. A simple cotton shirt from Gucci on the other hand feels like silk, has a perfect fit and fall over the body and looks soft and natural when you move. It feels like wearing clothing made in heaven.

You only notice this difference in quality if you have ever tried really high-end stuff. Once you have, you start realizing just how cheap H&M feels in comparison. Even the in-between stuff, which is considered pricy and maybe even luxury to many middle-class people, feels cheap compared to the high-end clothes. In-between is usually the WORST alternative when considering price VS quality.
For example, a pair of middle of the line shoes, for $100, are usually made with as cheap mass producing factory techniques as H&M shoes for $30, and will usually just look more cheap since it's an obvious (failed) attempt at looking "luxurious". Without being racist, in Europe you usually see immigrants who wants to look classy wearing stuff like this. It usually has italian, french or classic british sounding names which has nothing to do with real quality clothing or any traditional brand, like for example "Bianco" (very cheap), "Batistini", "Emilio" or "Gabba". It's all very, very cheap marketing of extremely cheap products. If the choice is between a mid-line and a budget H&M, I still say H&M is better and will make the bearer look more respectable than "Bianco" or whatever.

However, if you can afford a pair of handmade shoes for $500-600, you will have the best quality and it will also look the best. It will look as expensive as it is and for a trained eye will never be mistaken for middle of the road fake luxury for $100. For me, in-between products are a TOTAL waste. It's a way to fool the middle-class. It's not an investment in quality or style. Either you go for H&M or you go for Yves Saint Laurent, there really is no middle road as far as I'm concerned.

Of course, there is yet another category of good quality products in a middle pricerange. These are usually more basic stuff and it's made to be used, worn, washed etc a lot but with the best materials and techniques. It's still somewhere between middle-end and high-end stuff in terms of price.

There is a japanese equivalent to H&M called Uniqlo which, unlike H&M, actually have a certain amount of quality for low prices. The best budget brand in the world is definitely Uniqlo. It's better quality than in-between products but actually cheaper than most of those in terms of price. I highly recommend it.



billsmithglendale
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Dec 2008
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,223

29 May 2009, 10:17 am

No need to spend even half that on a pair of jeans. Just make sure the ones you get are a good fit, and match well with what you are wearing.



ViperaAspis
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Age: 52
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,083
Location: Portland, OR

29 May 2009, 10:50 am

Wealth and "conspicuous consumption" are used by the wealthy to identify themselves to each other and attract potential wealthy mates. Designer brands can be like a secret handshake that only those conscious of such things will quickly notice.

So, to answer, YES! I would unequivocally, absolutely spend $150 or much more on an item of designer apparel if I were interested in attracting other wealthy members of the opposite sex.


_________________
Who am I? This guy! http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt97863.html


NeantHumain
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 24 Jun 2004
Age: 41
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,837
Location: St. Louis, Missouri

29 May 2009, 7:25 pm

Unless they're right behind you looking at the label and the jeans fit all right, they can't tell if they're cheap jeans or not. As long as you're dressed decently, it won't make much difference.



BigK
Velociraptor
Velociraptor

User avatar

Joined: 13 Jan 2008
Age: 56
Gender: Male
Posts: 400

30 May 2009, 8:51 am

It all depends on what it is worth to YOU. And whether or not you can afford it.

If you really need the 'right' clothes, 'right' accessories,'right' gadgets etc to impress your peers and fit in then unfortunately that is your problem.

Yes, people will judge you on what you are wearing but how important are those people really?

Real friends are not really bothered about what you wear. Though they will hopefully warn you if you have put on something really dreadful ;)

Ever read the American Psycho? :)


_________________
"It's a dangerous business, Frodo, going out of your door," he used to say. "You step into the Road, and if you don't keep your feet, there is no knowing where you might be swept off to.

"How can it not know what it is?"


Aspie_Chav
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Feb 2006
Age: 48
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,931
Location: Croydon

30 May 2009, 3:19 pm

BigK wrote:
Yes, people will judge you on what you are wearing but how important are those people really?

Real friends are not really bothered about what you wear.


Image
I am sure that every NT believes that; however, I believe that aspies bad luck in the NT world is down to lack of superficial qualities not noble ones. I encourage being a little more superficial while blatantly denying it.

While we are on the subject of expensive jeans, it so happens that I have a pear of premier-de-quality selling on ebay starting at £25. Very rare you cant buy these jeans easily in the shops. Check out the 6 phoots.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0420050644



Zoonic
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Posts: 572

30 May 2009, 4:29 pm

I agree that aspies would be more succesful in certain social situations, like dating, if they didn't deny the importance of superficial traits and vanity. It's important to look good and do anything to look as good as possible. That includes living healthy, working out, cosmetic improvements and clothing.

Why do so many aspies deny these things are important but yet whine that people see them as repulsive.

A socially unskilled aspie who looks like s**t will be treated badly. A socially unskilled aspie who looks better than the average NT will have his lack of social skills seen as a cute and quirky trait, almost attractive in many cases.

Superficial handicap is actually the biggest reason why aspies can't date. Ugly NT's, believe it or not, ALSO have that problem. The ugly NT's who do get in relationships have some very special talents like incredible sense of humour, are wealthy or meet partners who have some sort of personality disorder (borderlinish etc) who are drawn to them more for being a bad guy than for their looks, as an example.



Space
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Apr 2006
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,082

31 May 2009, 2:36 pm

having nice jeans is always a good thing I think.



robbokris
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 7 Jun 2008
Age: 29
Gender: Male
Posts: 360
Location: Australia

31 May 2009, 6:21 pm

Space wrote:
having nice jeans is always a good thing I think.


Yeah I agree. I did spend $130 on jeans once (that was in Bloomingdales in NYC) but I was on holiday and it was now or never so I chose to buy them, very nice jeans they are.

But I tend to spend around $50-$60. (I mainly only buy jeans on holiday in the US) but I do sometimes buy jeans for like £3 to use a few times before they wear and tear away.



BigK
Velociraptor
Velociraptor

User avatar

Joined: 13 Jan 2008
Age: 56
Gender: Male
Posts: 400

01 Jun 2009, 6:58 am

Aspie_Chav wrote:
BigK wrote:
Yes, people will judge you on what you are wearing but how important are those people really?

Real friends are not really bothered about what you wear.


I am sure that every NT believes that; however, I believe that aspies bad luck in the NT world is down to lack of superficial qualities not noble ones. I encourage being a little more superficial while blatantly denying it.


Well, I did say "Real friends". ;)

Sure it helps to fit in with the guys at work etc but if they give you too much stick then they are not really your friends.
Sure if you are going on a date you want to give a good impression.

What you wear presents an image of you to the world. You do need to be aware of whether the image you present is the one you want to present.

Your jeans need to be clean, not crumpled, fit and not be too unfashionable.
But they really don't need to cost $150.

If you can easily afford it then fine. But if you present the image of someone who spends a lot of money then you will attract people who expect to you to keep spending.

Wearing the right clothes can give some people a confidence boost i.e. make them feel the part and make it easier to act the part.
In that case getting the right clothes can be an investment. Especially getting the right suit for a job interview.


_________________
"It's a dangerous business, Frodo, going out of your door," he used to say. "You step into the Road, and if you don't keep your feet, there is no knowing where you might be swept off to.

"How can it not know what it is?"


0_equals_true
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 5 Apr 2007
Age: 39
Gender: Male
Posts: 11,038
Location: London

01 Jun 2009, 7:11 am

I sorry but if you spend $150 on a pair a jeans you are a mug. No matter how good the jeans are they would never be worth $150. Not unless you are going to personally give $150 to the person in the sweat shop that made them.

An average person isn't going to care two hoots that you spent triple figures on a pair of jean, if you tell them they would probably think you are nuts and clueless about money.



DemonAbyss10
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Aug 2007
Age: 32
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,492
Location: The Poconos, Pennsylvania

01 Jun 2009, 7:30 pm

for jeans? I usually pay $60-$80. Most ive ever spent on a full outfit... lemme think...

Shorts (Military surplus style, i think they were Wearfirsts or Zoo York) $85
T-shirt (White graphic designed Quicksilver shirt) $50
Pair of Vans (hard to describe the appearance) $60
Zoo York Tribal Design Cap $40


so really that full outfit (not including socks/boxers) is worth around $235

I just wear and pick out at stored whatever i think looks neat. Cost doesn't bother me too much unless its like $120+ for one item.


_________________
Myers Brigg - ISTP
Socionics - ISTx
Enneagram - 6w5

Yes, I do have a DeviantArt, it is at.... http://demonabyss10.deviantart.com/