2 other characteristics of autism that strike out at me.

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12 Jun 2009, 11:40 am

in my never ending research, i have come up with a couple of phenomenens relating to autism.

1-you have about a 25% higher chance of having an autistic child if you are a mechanical or computer engineer...OR IF you have (or had) a grandfather who was an engineer

PLEASE, I AM NOT SAYING THAT EVERY FOURTH CHILD BORN TO THE POPULOUS OF ENGINEERS IS AUTISTIC.

however when you look at millions of birth stats over 1000's of occupations it is clear engineers sire more spectrum disorder children children as an occupation than others....AGAIN I WANT TO MAKE ABSOLUTELY SURE THE MEANING OF THIS STATISTIC, ENGINEERS ARENT CREATING US BY THE MILLIONS, LOL :D

are you or is your father or is your grandfather a MECHANICAL or COMPUTER engineer?
it would only seem logical because engineers can sit for hours enthwraled(sp) in what they are doing.....they seem to have better focus and drive than norm, imho


2- :( :evil: :cry: :x 8O ............you have a 5 times higher risk if you are a male over the ages of about 42-44 and beyond of having an autistic child

i was 44 when i had my only son.....since i am aspergers, the chances were already high, but a 44 yr old asperger????? asking for real trouble brother...my son has no language yet , as i did, but he is very bright and the most sociable autistic child i ever seen :lol:

AGAIN, LETS REVIEW THE STAT....this is newer research here

men over 42 having children is a small % of babies being born i'm sure ( but older men having kids has been growing for yrs, so another explanation in the skyrocketing diagnoses)

again i am NOT SAYING men over 40 are popping out autistic kids by the millions, however you have a five times more likliehood than a 30 yr old, and that is VERY SIGNIFICANT...................MEN!!, our seeds get old too!! !, not just the ladies......take a hint younger dudes

btw, it has been known for a long time that men over 50-55 have way higher incidences of havin schizophrenic offspring

my father was over 40 when i was born ( i look at this suspiciously now), how old was your dad when you were born?

how old were you when you had an autistic child


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12 Jun 2009, 12:00 pm

My dad is an electrician, my brother is more the mechanic, but he has a different dad, I'm more the computer techy than anyone in my imidiate family, does this count by any chance...?

As for my dads age I think he was in his late 20's or something so I can't comment on that but thanks for the heads up on this part, not that I'm sure I'd really want kids... even considering that I do volountary work at some youth clubs, look after my niece (with an amount of help) and often told that I'm good with kids... just gonna have to find out what happens through time I guess.



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12 Jun 2009, 12:04 pm

My grandfather was an engineer, and a very AS-ish person...his brother was lower functioning with extreme OCD tendencies, and never properly integrated into "normal" society. My grandfather's sister was an architecht as well...

My grandfather had his first child at the age of 42. Neither of his sons were autistic, but they are both very intelligent and unusual....both have done both music and engineering...my uncle settled into architecht/engineering and my dad settled into music...

And in regards to his grandchildren, there is my cousin who committed suicide as a teenager and mighta been an aspie...and there is me...a mid-functioning ADD-PDD-Something...of average intelligence.



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12 Jun 2009, 12:11 pm

my dad was 31 when he had me.. :? but he's AS too, so idk...

idk how old his dad was when he had him.. or if we've had any engineers in our family.


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12 Jun 2009, 12:37 pm

No mechanical or computer engineers.

And my dad wasn't anywhere near that age when I was made/born, either.

Lol.


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12 Jun 2009, 12:41 pm

My mother was working on her masters in computer science while she was pregnant with me..



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12 Jun 2009, 12:44 pm

BelindatheNobody wrote:
No mechanical or computer engineers.

And my dad wasn't anywhere near that age when I was made/born, either.

Lol.


My dad was around 20 when I was born.



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12 Jun 2009, 12:52 pm

My dad's a Mechanical Engineer. He was 45 when he had me. My mom was 39.

I think what the stat reveals is that 1) there's a genetic component/connection. AND 2) Back in that day, most of the people/men who were Aspie-ish went into engineering. It was a very lucrative field in my dad's youth (the "greatest" generation), and it catered to his strengths.

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12 Jun 2009, 12:56 pm

QueenKnitter wrote:
I think what the stat reveals is that 1) there's a genetic component/connection. AND 2) Back in that day, most of the people/men who were Aspie-ish went into engineering. It was a very lucrative field in my dad's youth (the "greatest" generation), and it catered to his strengths.

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12 Jun 2009, 12:59 pm

My dad was a mechanical engineer, an inventor, a clock maker and entrepreneur. He was 30 when I was born.



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12 Jun 2009, 1:04 pm

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1-you have about a 25% higher chance of having an autistic child if you are a mechanical or computer engineer...OR IF you have (or had) a grandfather who was an engineer
It may be accurate to say that a child of a randomly-chosen engineer is 25% more likely to be autistic than a randomly-chosen child of a non-engineer, but does that equate to parents' chosen occupation influencing the likelihood of any future offspring being autistic?

If a condition is inherited then the children of someone having said condition or children of carriers of some condition are more likely to have that condition.

If autism is inherited and people with autistic traits are more likely to become engineers that might explain why children of engineers are more likely in general to be autistic. But if autism is inherited wouldn't it make more sense that only the children of engineers with autism or who carry autistic genes would be more likely to have autistic children?

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2- ............you have a 5 times higher risk if you are a male over the ages of about 42-44 and beyond of having an autistic child
If autism is inherited and people with autistic traits are more likely to be older when having children that might explain why children conceived by older males are more likely in general to be autistic. But if autism is inherited wouldn't it make more sense that only the children of older males with autism or of those who carry autistic genes would be more likely to have autistic children?

To go further, if an autistic male is lower functioning would it make sense that if said male breeds then it would be more likely that he would breed at a later age?

And is there really enough information to say that as an autistic father ages that the likelihood of passing autism to his children increases?

Both of your claims might be explained by the following:
  • if autism is inherited, then
  • if level of functioning in parents has an influence on likelihood of passing autism to one's children, then
  • if autistic males or males related to autistic males are more likely to become engineers
  • if the level of an autistic male's functioning has an inverse relationship with the average date on which said male would breed

If autism is inherited, and if functioning level has an influence on whether said inheritance is expressed in one's children, and if level of functioning has an inverse relationship with age of breeding, then wouldn't that create a situation where the average age of the parents of autistic newborn children would be higher than the average age of the parents of non-autistic newborn children?



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12 Jun 2009, 2:05 pm

paternal grandfather-surveyor -31 at my father's birth
father-civil engineer -30 at my birth



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12 Jun 2009, 2:16 pm

I agree with matt on the matter of statistics (or the statistics of the matter, whatever). My mother's father was an electrician. He is also a charmer and a smooth-talker who is socially very skilled. My father was 32 years old when I was born.


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12 Jun 2009, 2:35 pm

College Professors, both parents, in English.

I would think there would be a high number of college professor children with AS. My mother had it. My brother has it. I have it.


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12 Jun 2009, 2:49 pm

My paternal grandfather was a gambler and a general ne'er-do-well. My father was an engineer and I was an engineer. He was 40 when I was born. My observation is that all my cats have Aspergers, with one or two exceptions, but they are all adopted.


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12 Jun 2009, 2:56 pm

My dad is an electrician. His whole family line is kind of strange, and still remains a mystery to me. His mother (my grandmother) is very aspie-ish: for example, she wears the same clothes all the time, has a HUGE collection of books she has never read and she is selling all of them now. She has had at least 5 jobs throughout her lifetime and finished high school with very low grades. As for my father's father, he just disappeared. My dad has absolutely no idea where his father can be found; they have lost all contact, and they have only seen each other when they were young. It really makes me wonder. My dad is a very secretive person, and knowing who his father was would help me understand him better.


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