index finger vs ring finger
06 Mar 2006, 9:31 pm
finger fortunes wrote:
A CHILD’S future really may be written in his hands—not in the creases of his palms but in the relative lengths of his fingers. A report just published in Developmental Medicine and Child Neurology suggests that people with autism have ring fingers that are abnormally long compared with their index fingers.
Hmmmm? what sizes am I comparing my fingers with?
finger fortunes wrote:
Children with autism have trouble interacting with other people.
Both their verbal and their gesture-based communication is poor,
and they often have low intelligence.
Both their verbal and their gesture-based communication is poor,
and they often have low intelligence.
Duhhhhh! How am i thypiihng thoiis???? NOT!
HMMMPH! I think intelligence is not so simplified!
I may be weak in social and cues, but smarter in areas that
most neurotypicals call obscure, but later turns out relevant.
finger fortunes wrote:
Early hallmarks—
a failure to point at things,
follow the gaze of someone else,
or engage in pretend play—
are often obvious by the tender age of 18 months.
About one child in 500 suffers from the condition.
a failure to point at things,
follow the gaze of someone else,
or engage in pretend play—
are often obvious by the tender age of 18 months.
About one child in 500 suffers from the condition.
Ok! this is book stuff! Hmmmmm?
[quote=finger fortune"]
John Manning, a researcher at the University of Liverpool, in Britain, who has studied what fingers can indicate about everything from fertility to sexual preference, [/quote]
So my finger represents my sexual organs size as well? or what
about her breast size? or ect...... and so forth!
finger fortune wrote:
teamed up with Simon Baron-Cohen at the University of Cambridge, whose expertise is in autism. They studied 72 autistic children and 23 with Asperger’s syndrome, a related condition in which the individual’s intelligence is not affected.
72 auties
23 aspies
Makes one think! what is the ratio of aspies to auties?
finger fortune wrote:
Dr Manning and Dr Baron-Cohen photocopied the children’s hands, and carefully measured the lengths of their subjects’ fingers from the copies. They worked out the ratio of the length of the index finger to the length of the ring finger for each child, and compared it with those of 34 of the children’s healthy siblings, 88 of their fathers, 88 of their mothers, and a number of unrelated controls that were matched for sex and age.
34 kids NT(siblings)
88 NT? Fathers
88 NT? Mothers
Not too specific in the fine scientific comparison details.
finger fortune wrote:
The relative sizes of someone’s fingers are fixed for life within three months of conception,
Know that is a cool fact I didn't know!
finger fortune wrote:
and the relationship seems to be governed by testosterone.
is this also within the first trimester(or 3 months).
So does it dictate also the breast and sexual organ size too for life?
finger fortune wrote:
Although the reason is not yet understood, earlier studies have shown that finger-length ratios are a robust marker of how much of that hormone a baby has been exposed to in utero—
Hmmmmm? Huh! What hormone? Utero= Uteros?????
finger fortune wrote:
the more testosterone, the longer the ring finger.
Does that apply to both male and female children?
finger fortune wrote:
Overall, therefore, men tend to have longer ring fingers
than index fingers,
than index fingers,
Thus testertone is male = longer ring finger
and what if a female has longer ring fingers? Higher levels too?
finger fortune wrote:
whereas in women the two fingers are more likely to be of equal length.
I will also assume less testertone.
finger fortune wrote:
Dr Manning and Dr Baron-Cohen found that autistic children had extremely long ring fingers compared with their index fingers.
Thus testertone in male children dictates autism?
and .....testertone in female children indicate autism due to it's abnormality?
finger fortune wrote:
Children with Asperger’s also had abnormal index-to-ring finger ratios,
Ok! so it a applies to aspies.
finger fortune wrote:
though less so than full-blown autistics. Even the unaffected siblings and parents of the autistic children had ratios that differed significantly from the normal controls.
thus it is the parenting gene that dictates autism?
finger fortune wrote:
That may sound surprising, but high levels of testosterone in the womb have been linked to several other brain-related phenomena, including left-handedness, dyslexia and female homosexuality. Dr Manning thinks that the families of autistic children are genetically predisposed to produce high levels of testosterone during early development. (The fetus makes most of the testosterone itself. In males, it comes from the testes and adrenal
glands; in females from the adrenals alone.
glands; in females from the adrenals alone.
Like I said it is genetic(parenting to parenting gene passing! and permeant encoding?
finger fortune wrote:
Only a small amount, if any, comes from the mother.
and if you read your books on baldness in men, it is their mothers brothers
that give the clue.
finger fortune wrote:
While high levels of testosterone may not solve the whole puzzle of autism, Dr Manning thinks levels in utero may be an important piece of it. The finding bolsters what is known as the “extreme male brain” theory of autism. As the name suggests, autism—which is, in any case, much more common in men than women—may simply be an extreme magnification of traits, such as problems with communication and empathy, that psychological testing has shown (to the surprise of few women) are more frequently found in men.
Interesting article indeed.
Sincerely,
Ghosthunter
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