True love really may not be for everyone(Nice guys vs mean )

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what u girl really prefer
nice guys 50%  50%  [ 9 ]
nice guys 50%  50%  [ 9 ]
not really nice guys 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
not really nice guys 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes : 18

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02 Apr 2006, 9:25 pm

Somewhere around ninth grade, I got the idea that today's man was emotionally sensitive and everything, so I began exploring my feelings in great depth and trying to figure out ways to be more open about my emotions to others and be considerate of other people's wants and needs. I suspected this would be a surefire way to get women, especially as I grew older and improved at being sensitive.

Women like this; they think it's sweet. Combine it with a sense of humor, and women really start to think you might have an attractive personality. The aspie inability to maintain eye contact can come off as flirtatious, and I have learned that, if I make a few such glances at a woman while talking and joking with another group of people, they tend to become interested.

If I'm just boringly kind and friendly when talking to a woman (which I admit I tend to), the woman will lose interest within minutes of an initial enthusiasm. I have to learn to be a better and more interesting conversationalist if I want to make friends and meet women and not just have casual acquaintances. A woman then moves away from her initial impression and lumps me into the "nice guys" category because I overdo it.

I am not "nice" because I'm afraid that, if I'm not, they won't like me but rather because I believe in kindness and like being nice. When I need to, I can assert myself to whatever level necessary. Acting haughty and spiteful is obviously not going to make a person many friends, though, so kindness wins the day.

I have found that, since my first stratagem requires a great deal of effort and does not pay off frequently enough, I have tried the prospects of "random play" on Facebook.com—without any more success. Actually, if I try to send women instant messages through this method—even though their profiles advertise "random play"—they tend to react by saying they are not sl*ts. Love and sex require men to jump through too many hoops with lots of risk and a low chance of success (for me, successes n = 0 so far).



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02 Apr 2006, 11:30 pm

all the women who voted in here are just bullshitting and playing with your minds... NICE GUYS FINISH LAST people... get used to it... be a badass... it's your only chance. don't be a doormat anymore... if you're a nice guy, it means your love is cheap and comes easy... make them work for it, and in the end, don't give it to them anyway... just to be a badass!

Nice Guys Finish Last (And They Don't Deserve Your Sympathy) http://con.ca/issues/7/9/1194


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03 Apr 2006, 12:04 am

hellznrg wrote:
all the women who voted in here are just bullshitting and playing with your minds... NICE GUYS FINISH LAST people... get used to it... be a badass... it's your only chance. don't be a doormat anymore... if you're a nice guy, it means your love is cheap and comes easy... make them work for it, and in the end, don't give it to them anyway... just to be a badass!

Nice Guys Finish Last (And They Don't Deserve Your Sympathy) http://con.ca/issues/7/9/1194


Being a nice guy does not mean being a non-assertive whimp. I think that some men are very confused about what behavior defines a nice guy. My partner is a nice guy but certainly no whimp. Okay, he has a few behavioral problems but he is still a nice guy. Despite being a nice guy, my partner claims that he has never had a problem finding a girlfriend. He is AS and quite geeky in many ways, but women love him. He says all any guy has to do is go out there and politely ask women if they want sex. He claims that all any guy has to do is go out and politely ask three women if they want sex and at least one will say yes.



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03 Apr 2006, 1:12 am

hmm.. you may have a point... maybe...

OR I COULD JUST AS WELL BE A BADASS...! it's easier and women are just crazy about that...! the girls who like nice guys prolly have AS and statistics show that there aren't enough AS women to go around..!

i'm not taking any crap from women anymore... it's easier and more comfortable to walk all over them... they're soft & really cushion your feet...!

it all boils down to two choices:

be nice to em and lose em
(or)
use em & lose em

which one is more fun!!??


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03 Apr 2006, 3:02 pm

Nice guys means NICE guys and not wuss or wimps or whatever u call it in English!!

Girls forget that one of the most manly traits in a man is how to treat girl gently .



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03 Apr 2006, 4:42 pm

hellznrg wrote:
all the women who voted in here are just bullshitting and playing with your minds... NICE GUYS FINISH LAST people... get used to it... be a badass... it's your only chance. don't be a doormat anymore... if you're a nice guy, it means your love is cheap and comes easy... make them work for it, and in the end, don't give it to them anyway... just to be a badass!

Nice Guys Finish Last (And They Don't Deserve Your Sympathy) http://con.ca/issues/7/9/1194


I genuinely like nice guys and am not playing with anyone's mind, what I don't like are the whiny drips that always say 'woe is me', believe it or not there is a difference. And you like being a badass? Well all I can say is that you must date women who lack enough respect for themselves as to want to be treated like that and, as much as I lack sympathy for these women as they bring it on themselves, it just shows you obviously have no idea of how to handle a real woman cos real women wouldnt stand for this. They would gobble you up and spit you out for breakfast! And you will 'use' the wrong woman one day and she will make you regret it deeply. :twisted:



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03 Apr 2006, 5:44 pm

Fiz wrote:
hellznrg wrote:
all the women who voted in here are just bullshitting and playing with your minds... NICE GUYS FINISH LAST people... get used to it... be a badass... it's your only chance. don't be a doormat anymore... if you're a nice guy, it means your love is cheap and comes easy... make them work for it, and in the end, don't give it to them anyway... just to be a badass!

Nice Guys Finish Last (And They Don't Deserve Your Sympathy) http://con.ca/issues/7/9/1194


I genuinely like nice guys and am not playing with anyone's mind, what I don't like are the whiny drips that always say 'woe is me', believe it or not there is a difference. And you like being a badass? Well all I can say is that you must date women who lack enough respect for themselves as to want to be treated like that and, as much as I lack sympathy for these women as they bring it on themselves, it just shows you obviously have no idea of how to handle a real woman cos real women wouldnt stand for this. They would gobble you up and spit you out for breakfast! And you will 'use' the wrong woman one day and she will make you regret it deeply. :twisted:


I may be just wondering her Fiz but what kind of man do you think I am?


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03 Apr 2006, 6:02 pm

I know that I have a lot to offer a girl but why do things come crashing down? Why do the girls that I've loved always ended far away and that I'll never get to talk to them or see them anymore? What am I doing wrong? I love with all my heart and I put everything I am into a relationship. I don't hide nothing and I try to meet any girl's needs and wants. I want to be all for this girl or that girl. It always ends in total ruin and I don't want anymore more to end that way. I want to find my one true love. Does anyone think there's one out there for me somewhere?
What do you girls think of me? Am I a nice guy?


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04 Apr 2006, 1:59 am

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Being a nice guy does not mean being a non-assertive whimp. I think that some men are very confused about what behavior defines a nice guy. My partner is a nice guy but certainly no whimp. Okay, he has a few behavioral problems but he is still a nice guy. Despite being a nice guy, my partner claims that he has never had a problem finding a girlfriend. He is AS and quite geeky in many ways, but women love him. He says all any guy has to do is go out there and politely ask women if they want sex. He claims that all any guy has to do is go out and politely ask three women if they want sex and at least one will say yes.


i don't think 3 women is enough... because when you're asking the second one, your chances are lower than you'd expect because of the dented cheek... and asking the 3rd one is even more slim due to having a black eye AND a dented cheek

just as the value of PI will never be 4, there is no chance of getting laid with this method

and it's so unfair that you can't hit them back.. the bitatches...


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04 Apr 2006, 2:04 am

LePetitPrince wrote:
Nice guys means NICE guys and not wuss or wimps or whatever u call it in English!!

Girls forget that one of the most manly traits in a man is how to treat girl gently .


oh please...! the cloying .... something or other...! blurgh... <sound of puking>

girls prefer to be thrown on the bed like a ragdoll & have your way with them..! :P


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04 Apr 2006, 2:51 am

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I know that I have a lot to offer a girl but why do things come crashing down? Why do the girls that I've loved always ended far away and that I'll never get to talk to them or see them anymore? What am I doing wrong? I love with all my heart and I put everything I am into a relationship. I don't hide nothing and I try to meet any girl's needs and wants. I want to be all for this girl or that girl. It always ends in total ruin and I don't want anymore more to end that way. I want to find my one true love. Does anyone think there's one out there for me somewhere?
What do you girls think of me? Am I a nice guy?


hmm.. lemme see!... seems like your're a perfect match for ....... ANOTHER NICE GUY! :)

dude, wisen up... if u want to lay girls... u gotta be a BADASS! just like me... my advice to you is, instead of conferring ALL your niceness on one girl (they don't even deserve even a fraction of it)... just spread the niceness among like 5 or 6 of them... god knows you've got enough...! just don't let any of them know about the others... oh... and use condoms...! or make sure you and everyone else is HIV negative beforehand.... i don't really like condoms that much... but i'm not sure cos i haven't had the opportunity to use em much... i, like you, was a nice guy until a few days ago... now i'm just a badass!! my heart is now just an empty shell... i use it to store condoms...


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04 Apr 2006, 8:16 am

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dude, wisen up... if u want to lay girls... u gotta be a BADASS! just like me... my advice to you is, instead of conferring ALL your niceness on one girl (they don't even deserve even a fraction of it)... just spread the niceness among like 5 or 6 of them... god knows you've got enough...! just don't let any of them know about the others... oh... and use condoms...! or make sure you and everyone else is HIV negative beforehand.... i don't really like condoms that much... but i'm not sure cos i haven't had the opportunity to use em much... i, like you, was a nice guy until a few days ago... now i'm just a badass!! my heart is now just an empty shell... i use it to store condoms...


Look man, a lot of us here are NOT looking to "get laid". If that's what you want for yourself, then so be it, but some of us want more out of a relationship than a one-night stand.

I personally want something with depth and substance, and long-lasting.



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04 Apr 2006, 3:05 pm

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TigerFire wrote:
I know that I have a lot to offer a girl but why do things come crashing down? Why do the girls that I've loved always ended far away and that I'll never get to talk to them or see them anymore? What am I doing wrong? I love with all my heart and I put everything I am into a relationship. I don't hide nothing and I try to meet any girl's needs and wants. I want to be all for this girl or that girl. It always ends in total ruin and I don't want anymore more to end that way. I want to find my one true love. Does anyone think there's one out there for me somewhere?
What do you girls think of me? Am I a nice guy?


hmm.. lemme see!... seems like your're a perfect match for ....... ANOTHER NICE GUY! :)

dude, wisen up... if u want to lay girls... u gotta be a BADASS! just like me... my advice to you is, instead of conferring ALL your niceness on one girl (they don't even deserve even a fraction of it)... just spread the niceness among like 5 or 6 of them... god knows you've got enough...! just don't let any of them know about the others... oh... and use condoms...! or make sure you and everyone else is HIV negative beforehand.... i don't really like condoms that much... but i'm not sure cos i haven't had the opportunity to use em much... i, like you, was a nice guy until a few days ago... now i'm just a badass!! my heart is now just an empty shell... i use it to store condoms...


Yeah yeah what ever man. I think that badass stuff is really driving the girls away in my way of thinking. No I don't think so on that another nice guy part. I'm not gay and nothing you ever say will ever change that. You know I'll have sex with a girl when ever that girl and I get married. I'm a Christain and will I'm willing to wait until then. I'm not really into sex I'm into a relationship with a girl that will last a life time not a pretty short time like your relationships will come across. If you consider this badass stuff is the way to get to a girl or keep girls from you keep doing it but I'll have no part of it. You hear me not a penny of it. You're really lame when it comes to this worldly idea that sex has no respect as it had been in the years before us. Take care.


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04 Apr 2006, 3:40 pm

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Look man, a lot of us here are NOT looking to "get laid". If that's what you want for yourself, then so be it, but some of us want more out of a relationship than a one-night stand.

I personally want something with depth and substance, and long-lasting.


dude, you're not seeing the potential here...! see, we're born with the nice guy syndrome and we're going to die with it... u can't get rid of it... you can only cover it up with a badassed attitude...!

so when u got the girls, they'll notice some of the nice guy stuff... and they'll think.....

wow... a badass who's a nice guy...! ! WOAH!! !! !!

see what i mean?


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04 Apr 2006, 3:46 pm

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Yeah yeah what ever man. I think that badass stuff is really driving the girls away in my way of thinking. No I don't think so on that another nice guy part. I'm not gay and nothing you ever say will ever change that. You know I'll have sex with a girl when ever that girl and I get married. I'm a Christain and will I'm willing to wait until then. I'm not really into sex I'm into a relationship with a girl that will last a life time not a pretty short time like your relationships will come across. If you consider this badass stuff is the way to get to a girl or keep girls from you keep doing it but I'll have no part of it. You hear me not a penny of it. You're really lame when it comes to this worldly idea that sex has no respect as it had been in the years before us. Take care.


dude i was just kidding about the match with a nice guy stuff..!

me, i'm an atheist.. i used to be a christian too, but a karma ran over my dogma u might say...! anyways yeah i'm sure you'll have plenty of luck finding women who don't like to have sex...! the world is full of them!


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04 Apr 2006, 4:11 pm

hellznrg, its pretty clear that you view women (yes, women not girls, girls are underage females that you shouldn't have sex with, duh!! !) as objects. Its all very well if all you are looking for is sex, but that's what prostitutes and escorts are for, or if you are a cheapskate and can't afford them, there are always whores for that. That way you can have as many as you like and they won't give a s**t which works for you cos you blatantly don't give a s**t either!

And not all of us fall for the nice guy badass thing by the way unless its stupid or vulnerable women (yes, women) that you pray on, in which case, shame on you.

Oh and ELLCIM, the reason why this guy doesn't want anything with depth and substance is because he lacks it himself. Pure and simple.