Computer/Mathematical Model of Friendships/Relationships/etc

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15 May 2010, 9:45 am

Has anybody thought about creating a computer/mathematical model for human relationships and possibly emotions? Do such things already exist?

I have a hard time with the heuristics involved with social issues so the idea occured to me. From a computer program perspective it would be nice to have everything layed out in maybe a graph but I'm also wondering if there's potential for using the model to derive new information and insights.

What do you think? I'm just brainstorming at the moment.

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15 May 2010, 10:45 am

i think for the creation a model like that whe would first need to know the exact workings of human emotions which we dont, so we cant make a model for them.

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15 May 2010, 10:58 am

I disagree. Newtonian physics wasn't an exact model, but it was still extremely useful to the point that it's still used today.

I just want to create something that's useful, even if it's just for mapping information.

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15 May 2010, 12:01 pm

The problem is that such a model would be way too complex - and thus you wouldn't be able to get anything out of it.

Unless you are thinking of drawing an influence diagram or something?

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15 May 2010, 12:41 pm

FlyingAeroplane wrote:

The problem is that such a model would be way too complex - and thus you wouldn't be able to get anything out of it.

It wouldn't have to be complicated. For example you could just use a graph and have people as nodes and the edges representing some kind of relationship. This would still be useful but not as useful as a more sophisticated one.

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15 May 2010, 2:27 pm

E-Harmony its NTer based, but do the profile I was amazed...

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15 May 2010, 2:58 pm

CosmicCowboy wrote:

E-Harmony its NTer based, but do the profile I was amazed...

Why were you amazed and what bearing does it have on the topic of the thread?

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15 May 2010, 3:27 pm

HenryKrinkle wrote:

How does one quantify emotions?

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15 May 2010, 3:33 pm

HenryKrinkle wrote:

FlyingAeroplane wrote:

The problem is that such a model would be way too complex - and thus you wouldn't be able to get anything out of it.

They have that on Civilisation if you look - and it doesn't really do much to improve social skills.

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15 May 2010, 3:38 pm

I'm going to sum up my opinion of this thread with a rather fitting illustration:

[img][650:212]http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/drama.png[/img]

After all, pictures are worth a thousand words, and comics are worth ten pictures. Do the math (as Sho Minimamoto would say).

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15 May 2010, 3:44 pm

ruveyn wrote:

How does one quantify emotions?

With numbers. :lol:

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15 May 2010, 3:46 pm

FlyingAeroplane wrote:

They have that on Civilisation if you look - and it doesn't really do much to improve social skills.

Who said anything about improving social skills?

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15 May 2010, 4:34 pm

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10:24:49 PM: I can't conceive of what you mean in it's entirety, a graph a program? How would it work?
10:25:15 PM: you'd add data to it
10:25:24 PM: like you'd add a person
10:25:30 PM: And it'd... tell you what to do? Or be a reference guide?
10:25:31 PM: and then define a relationship between you and them
10:25:37 PM: ahhhhh
10:25:38 PM: and quantify things about that relationship
10:25:48 PM: I like the idea.
10:25:49 PM: and loads of things like that
10:25:58 PM: you can even add "things" and "ideas"
10:26:03 PM: and link them to you or other people
10:26:15 PM: like if someone was a budhist you could link them to the idea "budhist"
10:26:53 PM: but you could potentially come up with algorithms to get it give you information
10:27:13 PM: it could potentially tell you what to do, yes
10:27:21 PM: you could say have a class of friends
10:27:25 PM: say closest friends
10:27:38 PM: and define on it a "last contacted" property
10:28:06 PM: and you could set up a query i.e. list all people in class close friends who i haven't contacted in over a week
10:28:10 PM: that's just a simple example

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15 May 2010, 5:33 pm

HenryKrinkle wrote:

FlyingAeroplane wrote:

They have that on Civilisation if you look - and it doesn't really do much to improve social skills.

Who said anything about improving social skills?

You expect your model to come up with useful results - which would ideally be a better social understanding, would it not? Otherwise your modelling exercise is a waste of time.

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15 May 2010, 6:24 pm

FlyingAeroplane wrote:

HenryKrinkle wrote:

FlyingAeroplane wrote:

They have that on Civilisation if you look - and it doesn't really do much to improve social skills.

Who said anything about improving social skills?

You expect your model to come up with useful results - which would ideally be a better social understanding, would it not?

Try reading through the thread again a few times. I expect it to *do* something useful (serve some purpose), at least i.e. help me map out formally something which is normally done intuitively and heuristically.

It would be *nice* if it could come up with useful results but they wouldn't necessarily have to be a better social understanding. For instance, the understanding could be embedded in the model/code and the output could be instructions such as "contact so and so".

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15 May 2010, 6:27 pm

HenryKrinkle wrote:

FlyingAeroplane wrote:

HenryKrinkle wrote:

FlyingAeroplane wrote:

They have that on Civilisation if you look - and it doesn't really do much to improve social skills.

Who said anything about improving social skills?

You expect your model to come up with useful results - which would ideally be a better social understanding, would it not?

Unless you come up with a near perfect model, then it sounds like an absolute waste of time. Its very unlikely to improve anything.

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