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21 May 2010, 6:15 pm

I want to compare my SAT/ACT scores to other Aspies and I also want a rough statistical idea of what Aspies get on the two tests. You're not required to if you do not wish to or cannot, but try to include as many of the following: composite score and percentile (total of everything), section scores and percentiles (math, writing, reading, science), subsection scores (rhetorical skills, grammar/mechanics, algebra, geo/trig), and whether or not you had extended time on the test as an accommodation. Please provide accurate information. I don't know who you are, so if you might be planning on providing false information or exaggerating, there is no point. Please don't do it, it'll just mess me up. This is mostly just for fun, though, so no worries if you're doing it from memory. Thanks :D



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21 May 2010, 7:03 pm

This is the ACT. I never had time to take the SAT, though people thought I would do better on it than the ACT based on how I think. (If that was in any way Aspie related, maybe it's something you should look into.)

Composite: 27

English: 29 (made higher on this before)
Math: 21 (I worked my butt off for this score, which was only enough for me to get into college algebra)
Reading: 30
Science: 26



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21 May 2010, 9:08 pm

I took SATs twice back in 99/2000 so the percentiles have probably changed since then (I've heard now scores are generally higher, although I could be wrong), irrelevant though because I don't remember what they were in the first place. I took a class for them in between and it helped my verbal score a lot.

Verbal: 560 (first) 670 (second)
Math: 740 (first) 750 (second)


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21 May 2010, 9:18 pm

I don't remember my scores, but they were fairly average. I remember there was a timing aspect - nation-wide scores are different during different seasons.

What I really hated were the essays. I took an SAT prep course between my tests. In class, we graded our practice essays. Mine was the only 12. Both of my real essays recieved the lowest possible score. The first one deserved it. I fail to see how anyone can write something nearly as good as the example essays for 6 - 3 pages worth of writing that could be in a novel. It would probably take me several hours to put together something of that caliber. Most of the bipedal rocks I went to school with couldn't accomplish that on their own in a month. But in half an hour? It's superhuman. I'd like to know exactly how many people get the maximum score on essays, because I feel it's an idiotic standard to hold anyone to.


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22 May 2010, 12:30 pm

I took the ACT in 2007, and here's what I can remember from it...

Composite: 30
Percentile: 99
Science: 31

I know I got 29s and 30s on all the other parts, except for the optional writing that I also took. I got a 77 percentile on that one.



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22 May 2010, 12:53 pm

I took the SAT a bit back. I don't remember the exact scores, but I can give some approximations, from what I do remember.

Math - 720-749
Verbal - 710-719
Writing - 690-699

Although, I don't think most do anything with the writing component yet, like for college requirements for anything or for scholarships, because it hasn't been tested well enough, and is basically still being verified as statistically relevant to student performance in college and success of students in the long term.... Although, that's kind of silly, because the SATs aren't up to much of any standard for relating future student performances. They could be a lot better overall.


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22 May 2010, 7:36 pm

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I don't remember my scores, but they were fairly average. I remember there was a timing aspect - nation-wide scores are different during different seasons.

What I really hated were the essays. I took an SAT prep course between my tests. In class, we graded our practice essays. Mine was the only 12. Both of my real essays recieved the lowest possible score. The first one deserved it. I fail to see how anyone can write something nearly as good as the example essays for 6 - 3 pages worth of writing that could be in a novel. It would probably take me several hours to put together something of that caliber. Most of the bipedal rocks I went to school with couldn't accomplish that on their own in a month. But in half an hour? It's superhuman. I'd like to know exactly how many people get the maximum score on essays, because I feel it's an idiotic standard to hold anyone to.


I did the writing test on the ACT once. I made a 6 out of 12, which was disappointing because I'm a very good writer. I'm with you, I looked at sample essays and they were ridiculous. No one can write that much in the time allotted. I went to a class on how to improve your ACT score...there was a girl who made an 11 (out of 12) and wasn't satisfied with her score. I hate it when people do that sort of thing...



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22 May 2010, 8:55 pm

I took the SAT too, and those essays were the worst. I did practice for them, but IIRC I got half the points off because I couldn't think of anything to write, freaked out, and scribbled something completely incoherent. Fortunately, this was like the first year they had a writing section, so it wasn't weighted very highly. My actual verbal score was a much better representation of my actual English ability, because it didn't involve that much executive function. :P



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22 May 2010, 9:07 pm

Yea there was no writing section when I took SATs. I had to do writing for GREs though, and I can remember looking over sample/past questions while studying and it was like half of them I could easily write on and the other half I'd be totally screwed if they came up.

I lucked out, both the ones I got on the actual test were in the "no prob" category and I got a "5" (out of 6 possible, not sure if there are half-points or something). I remember that was a good but not great percentile, like 78 or something. GREs were bad news, those things were ruthless.


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22 May 2010, 9:15 pm

"GREs were bad news, those things were ruthless."
Yeah, I took a GRE practice test a couple months ago expecting it to be just like the SAT, which was not that bad. I ended up with 300-something on the math, and like 670 on the verbal (compared to 670/800 on the SAT), and to be honest I'm not sure which score upset me more. :D I'll be studying my butt off for the GRE this summer. Were they computerized when you took them, Amazon, or is that new?



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23 May 2010, 2:56 pm

astaut wrote:
I went to a class on how to improve your ACT score...there was a girl who made an 11 (out of 12) and wasn't satisfied with her score. I hate it when people do that sort of thing...


... I do that sort of thing :( (that is, become unsatisfied with my scores, even when others say they're good). For me, it's perfectionism that causes me to be at least a bit unsatisfied with anything but a perfect score. Usually, I'll be satisfied with a perfect score in at least one section. One of the reasons I started this thread is because I wanted to see if people did worse on the SAT than the ACT, as I seem to have. I was upset with my SAT score, mostly because it was quite a bit worse than my ACT (although, by your apparent perspective, you and others I have spoken to would not consider it so). My SAT composite percentile was 94 (score 2010/2400), compared to my ACT percentile of 99 (33/36). Not only that but my reading section on the SAT was 630/800 (87 percentile or something) compared to my ACT score of 34/36 (99 percentile).
Fortunately, I feel comfortable with my ACT score because I got perfect in the science section of the ACT. I think it might have made me a bit too comfortable. It seems that whenever I get a better score on something than I often do, I automatically set my goals higher than my high score. Sometimes it works out, but I do have a limit, as do all red-blooded human beings.



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23 May 2010, 11:14 pm

^ I'm a perfectionist too, but I have to remember not to talk negatively about stuff that could be seen as an accomplishment in someone else's eyes so I don't hurt their feelings or something. My earlier ACT was a 23 which I was unsatisfied with, but right as I was about to spit out something negative about my score this girl mentioned that she made a 15 :( I constantly have to remind myself, or I'll come across as...I don't know what, but not good, lol. Personally I wasn't overjoyed with my 27 on the ACT but I made myself okay with it because I had a lot of hard stuff going on at the time.



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24 May 2010, 9:59 am

astaut wrote:
My earlier ACT was a 23 which I was unsatisfied with, but right as I was about to spit out something negative about my score this girl mentioned that she made a 15 :( I constantly have to remind myself, or I'll come across as...I don't know what, but not good, lol.

I see where you're coming from now. You don't want to offend random people by saying that you're unhappy out loud. It seems that the difference in our opinions comes from our different situations. For me, the only people I expressed dissatisfaction to were people who know what I am trying to accomplish, like my counselor, family members, teachers, etc. I know well enough not to say it in front of someone who doesn't know me well enough to know that I have high standards, am self-critical, and most importantly, I am trying to get into a really good college. That's the reason I attempted to explain my situation, but perhaps I wasn't clear enough on my main point. I do have a tendency to be ambiguous toward my main point when speaking and writing speech-like prose.



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24 May 2010, 11:24 pm

Wow CaptainIrate. I took the SAT reasoning test and got a 2010 composite score too. 640 Reading, 800 Math, and 570 Writing here. I only messed up on the writing prompt because the question was something like, "Is talking an efficient and satisfying way of communication?" Funny I still remember the prompt. It gave me hell because my aspie point of view is so different from the mainstream, "YES TALKING IS EFFICIENT!"



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25 May 2010, 12:25 am

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"GREs were bad news, those things were ruthless."
Yeah, I took a GRE practice test a couple months ago expecting it to be just like the SAT, which was not that bad. I ended up with 300-something on the math, and like 670 on the verbal (compared to 670/800 on the SAT), and to be honest I'm not sure which score upset me more. :D I'll be studying my butt off for the GRE this summer. Were they computerized when you took them, Amazon, or is that new?


Mine were computerized and I took them in 07, but I believe you can take them either computerized or on paper.

I took subject tests in psychology in 07 and 09, and they were paper bubble tests.

Also GRE math was the nastiest thing I ever saw in my life, it was many levels beyond the study materials. I got a real good score (710 I think) but it was literally blind luck, it was like a 28 question test in 45 minutes and I got thru 8 questions in the first 25 minutes and basically after realizing that I just read each question real quick and guessed, and somehow I got most of them right. One of my biggest motivations for going straight into a Ph.D after my masters is because I don't want my GREs to time out, there is no chance I could ever replicate that score and I could easily lose 200 points on it. I'm not awesome at math but I'm very decent, and I never want to do that again.


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25 May 2010, 6:30 pm

Mapler wrote:
Wow CaptainIrate. I took the SAT reasoning test and got a 2010 composite score too. 640 Reading, 800 Math, and 570 Writing here. I only messed up on the writing prompt because the question was something like, "Is talking an efficient and satisfying way of communication?" Funny I still remember the prompt. It gave me hell because my aspie point of view is so different from the mainstream, "YES TALKING IS EFFICIENT!"

Awesome :lol: I thought it was kind of funny when I saw that my score was the same as the current year, which was the year that I took it, and to see someone else got it to, well...
That's awesome that you got perfect in math. I wish I could have, but alas, I did not and I'm not retaking that Satan-inspired test. I was seeing double for the rest of the whole day after taking that test (eye fatigue problems).
And regarding your prompt, yeah they can be pretty terrible questions sometimes. And it does seem that they often are made to cause aspies difficulties. I believe mine was something like "do people need to be different to be successful?" I actually thought I did very well on it before seeing a score of 8/12, but I think I went wrong with introducing things and not explaining everything I introduced. I believe I spent too much time trying to make the ideas flow and trying to use varied sentences, and I did notice my problem while writing it, but there was too much written to go back and change iiII OH MY GOD I JUST REMEMBERED DETAILED REPORTS CAME OUT TODAY!! MUST CHECK NOW!!