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10 Jun 2010, 8:28 am

Since I watched a nazi movie last night, I decided to know more about it by Wikipeding it. And this is what I found: Very controversial as it stated. I found it very *speechless*... when thinking about his Action T4...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_health

As debated as Hitler's physical medical issues may be, his mental health is a minefield of theories and speculation. This topic is very controversial, as many believe that if a psychological cause can be found for Hitler's behavior, there would be more reasoning behind his actions.

Waite, who wrote an extensive psychohistory of Hitler, concluded that he suffered from borderline personality disorder, which manifested its symptoms in numerous ways and would imply Hitler was in full control of himself and his actions. Others have proposed Hitler may have been schizophrenic[citation needed], based on claims that he was hallucinating and delusional during his last year of life. Many people believe that Hitler had a mental disorder and was not schizophrenic nor bipolar, but rather met the criteria for both disorders, and was therefore most likely a schizoaffective. If true, this might be explained by a series of brief reactive psychoses in a narcissistic personality which could not withstand being confronted with reality (in this case, that he was not the "superman" or "savior of Germany" he envisioned himself to be, as his plans and apparent early achievements collapsed about him). In addition, his regular methamphetamine use and possible sleep deprivation in the last period of his life must be factored into any speculation as to the cause of his possible psychotic symptoms, as these two activities are known to trigger psychotic reactions in some individuals. However, researchers and behaviorist have studied the life and mannerisms of Adolf Hitler, some believe he may have had Asperger's Syndrome, which is part of the Autism Spectrum. Michael Fitzgerald, an expert in the field, concludes that Hitler did indeed meet all the criteria set out by Hans Asperger. Fitzgerald cites Hitler's poor sleep patterns, food fads, dislike of physical contact, an emptiness in human relations, and an inability to forge genuine friendships. It is important to note these are common traits in many people with or without Autism. Just because one or more of these traits exist does not mean a person has Autism or any other diagnosis. However, it is still debated today. Hitler never visited a psychiatrist, and under current methodology, any such diagnosis is speculation.


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10 Jun 2010, 8:32 am

Hitler was pure EVIL...how can anyone think he had AS?



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10 Jun 2010, 8:33 am

nice way to balance aspie arrogance :lol:

I think it is BS to be honest and no way to refute this "theory" so highly irrelevant



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10 Jun 2010, 8:34 am

Zsazsa wrote:
Hitler was pure EVIL...how can anyone think he had AS?


I know, right?
In my home country, AS is also called "the Angel Syndrome" coz most AS people are usually very innocent and kind.


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10 Jun 2010, 8:36 am

melbi wrote:
Zsazsa wrote:
Hitler was pure EVIL...how can anyone think he had AS?


I know, right?
In my home country, AS is also called "the Angel Syndrome" coz most AS people are usually very innocent and kind.

they are never angry in your home country?



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10 Jun 2010, 8:43 am

IamTheWalrus wrote:
melbi wrote:
Zsazsa wrote:
Hitler was pure EVIL...how can anyone think he had AS?


I know, right?
In my home country, AS is also called "the Angel Syndrome" coz most AS people are usually very innocent and kind.

they are never angry in your home country?


Well, I guess anger and innocence/kindness are two different things.

I think for Aspies, like Tony Attwood stated in his book... that the AS girls are much less "bitchy" than NT girls. He seriously said that in his book, I just can't remeber which page. But you get what I mean =) Aspie are gentle inside =) We can be agressive, but that's becoz we're hurt or upset....at least in my case it is. I got aggressive when hurt.


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10 Jun 2010, 8:43 am

I think that Hitler had a lot of problems.


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10 Jun 2010, 8:44 am

yes because wikipedia is a great and reliable source of information. The reason it's "controversial" is because there is no clear diagnosis! what entertains me is how you people always try to connect aspergers syndrome to all these famous people. JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE WAS SOCIALLY AWKWARD OR MADE SOME FAMOUS INVENTION DOESNT MEAN THEY HAVE ANY FORM OF AUTISM! YOU CANT GET A CONCLUSIVE DIAGNOSIS OFF OF SOME OLD RECORDS PRE-DATING THE DISCOVERY OF AUTISM! it's really sad how you waste your time doing this and making fools out of yourselves, just letting you know.


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10 Jun 2010, 8:45 am

possible borderline personality disorder tho.


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10 Jun 2010, 8:48 am

melbi wrote:
IamTheWalrus wrote:
melbi wrote:
Zsazsa wrote:
Hitler was pure EVIL...how can anyone think he had AS?


I know, right?
In my home country, AS is also called "the Angel Syndrome" coz most AS people are usually very innocent and kind.

they are never angry in your home country?


Well, I guess anger and innocence/kindness are two different things.

I think for Aspies, like Tony Attwood stated in his book... that the AS girls are much less "bitchy" than NT girls. He seriously said that in his book, I just can't remeber which page. But you get what I mean =) Aspie are gentle inside =) We can be agressive, but that's becoz we're hurt or upset....at least in my case it is. I got aggressive when hurt.


I am not an aspie so I would not know. But I may have been a bit bitchy in my first reaction I am a bit aggressive today, sorry.
I worked with LFA and some of them were like angels. I haven't seen such angels on this Forum yet.

But I think I get your point :P



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10 Jun 2010, 8:50 am

DiabloDave363 wrote:
yes because wikipedia is a great and reliable source of information. The reason it's "controversial" is because there is no clear diagnosis! what entertains me is how you people always try to connect aspergers syndrome to all these famous people. JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE WAS SOCIALLY AWKWARD OR MADE SOME FAMOUS INVENTION DOESNT MEAN THEY HAVE ANY FORM OF AUTISM! YOU CANT GET A CONCLUSIVE DIAGNOSIS OFF OF SOME OLD RECORDS PRE-DATING THE DISCOVERY OF AUTISM! it's really sad how you waste your time doing this and making fools out of yourselves, just letting you know.


thank you, it has been a great day for me, first being called a ret*d by angel aspies and now a fool, I love you all :P



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10 Jun 2010, 8:52 am

DiabloDave363 wrote:
yes because wikipedia is a great and reliable source of information. The reason it's "controversial" is because there is no clear diagnosis! what entertains me is how you people always try to connect aspergers syndrome to all these famous people. JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE WAS SOCIALLY AWKWARD OR MADE SOME FAMOUS INVENTION DOESNT MEAN THEY HAVE ANY FORM OF AUTISM! YOU CANT GET A CONCLUSIVE DIAGNOSIS OFF OF SOME OLD RECORDS PRE-DATING THE DISCOVERY OF AUTISM! it's really sad how you waste your time doing this and making fools out of yourselves, just letting you know.


oh, you don't have to verbally abuse me here you know. I just saw it. and thought i would put it on WP and see how other people think. Don't see any reason of wasting time or being stupid or sad...oh ya, there's no point for me to reply to such an abusive reply either. So what are you doing here Melbi? Go to bed!! !

Just want to say, do not make judgement (like saying other people are sad fool etc) of anyone here on WP.


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10 Jun 2010, 8:53 am

don't worry about it Melbi, its grumpy day today :lol:



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10 Jun 2010, 8:57 am

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don't worry about it Melbi, its grumpy day today :lol:


lol I guessed so..! !! anyway, Melbi is off to bed!! ! Can I be your first angel then, IamTheWalrus? :D I nominate myself!! ! :lol:

OK guys, I took my sleeping pills one hour ago and am feeling very dizzzzzzzzziiiiiiii.....

goodnight! *kiss* everyone get a kiss from Melbi!


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10 Jun 2010, 8:58 am

melbi wrote:
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don't worry about it Melbi, its grumpy day today :lol:


lol I guessed so..! !! anyway, Melbi is off to bed!! ! Can I be your first angel then, IamTheWalrus? :D I nominate myself!! ! :lol:

OK guys, I took my sleeping pills one hour ago and am feeling very dizzzzzzzzziiiiiiii.....

goodnight! *kiss* everyone get a kiss from Melbi!


I am so ashamed I said BS to an angel :oops:

Nighty :lol:



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10 Jun 2010, 9:04 am

I don't think everyone with AS is super nice. Where is that impression coming from? We generally have less of a tolerance for human stupidity and clique-mindedness. We don't understand subliminal social cues so we act however we want to. This seems quite nice to me but not to the NT population. I'd actually be curious about Hitler here. Do you think he understood social cues? He obviously had extreme fixated interests. It would make sense that being bullied lead him to becoming a genocidal maniac. Just look at what bullying did to the Columbine shooters. (both rumored to have AS) I don't see why everyone is automatically assuming Hitler didn't have it simply because he was a fascist dictator. He was a vegetarian too.