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24 Aug 2010, 2:06 am

Hi there guys!

I am working on a super top secret mission, doing research in theology, the concept of God and historical Jesus (okay, it's a manuscript for a book an agency contacted me to write).

As people in the world, everyone has a concept of the Christian God, whether you believe or not. What I want to know, in a serious way, is what you guys think God would do had he been reincarnated into a human being, without necessarily knowing it. Not walk on water or things that will seem unnatural, but more little bits where one could tell this was a work of God, when looking closely.

I'm very curious to see what everyone thinks of this, since it's something that couldn't 'really' happen in my scientific brain.



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24 Aug 2010, 2:55 am

neves wrote:
Hi there guys!

I am working on a super top secret mission, doing research in theology, the concept of God and historical Jesus (okay, it's a manuscript for a book an agency contacted me to write).

As people in the world, everyone has a concept of the Christian God, whether you believe or not. What I want to know, in a serious way, is what you guys think God would do had he been reincarnated into a human being, without necessarily knowing it. Not walk on water or things that will seem unnatural, but more little bits where one could tell this was a work of God, when looking closely.

I'm very curious to see what everyone thinks of this, since it's something that couldn't 'really' happen in my scientific brain.


I'm not sure what you're getting at but is this any different from what a rabbit would do if it were a human? Or perhaps a black hole humanized? Or perhaps the electro-magnetic force if it became human? It's a very odd concept and hard to grasp.



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24 Aug 2010, 3:18 am

Well, according to the Bible, Jesus and God are one of the same, which I find ludicrous.

Maybe I should become Jewish! :D


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24 Aug 2010, 3:21 am

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Well, according to the Bible, Jesus and God are one of the same, which I find ludicrous.



Not the Bible (TNKH). Rather the Gospels and only Paul taught it.

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24 Aug 2010, 3:38 am

Is God then Jewish? Or is he Muslim? Or perhaps Christian? Or none of these?



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24 Aug 2010, 3:59 am

Read the New Testament and find out.



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24 Aug 2010, 4:35 am

mgran wrote:
Read the New Testament and find out.


Sorry, that's a question only God can answer and the testaments are prejudiced. Next time I meet God I'll ask him.



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24 Aug 2010, 4:41 am

Sand wrote:
neves wrote:
Hi there guys!

I am working on a super top secret mission, doing research in theology, the concept of God and historical Jesus (okay, it's a manuscript for a book an agency contacted me to write).

As people in the world, everyone has a concept of the Christian God, whether you believe or not. What I want to know, in a serious way, is what you guys think God would do had he been reincarnated into a human being, without necessarily knowing it. Not walk on water or things that will seem unnatural, but more little bits where one could tell this was a work of God, when looking closely.

I'm very curious to see what everyone thinks of this, since it's something that couldn't 'really' happen in my scientific brain.


I'm not sure what you're getting at but is this any different from what a rabbit would do if it were a human? Or perhaps a black hole humanized? Or perhaps the electro-magnetic force if it became human? It's a very odd concept and hard to grasp.


^^Greetings neves.

I must say that I agree very much with Sand. If, by definition, God is not human, then this is very difficult to say what he would do if he was human. Since, if he was human, then he would not be God.

On the other hand, if you mean that he had the ability to assume human form, then I believe this would be very interesting. We could indeed consider the happy New Testament. On the other hand, we could perhaps assume that he would attempt to spread the way of his religiion (perhaps this God is not the Catholic God) as this has been taught elsewhere (in holy books etc.).

However, there does come a difficulty with this. If he does assume human form, and does not have any supernatural powers in this form, then there is perhaps very little else that he could accomplish that his followers are not already doing so. On the other hand, if he did not wish to spread word of his existence, perhaps he could act as a missionary, carrying out some good deeds.

If he did provide himself with supernatural powers in this form. Then, perhaps he would attempt to carry out good deeds with these powers, or even prove his existence.


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24 Aug 2010, 6:09 am

I'll ask him when I meet him(or her!)



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24 Aug 2010, 7:49 am

He'd probably be a bit of a dick.


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24 Aug 2010, 7:52 am

ruveyn wrote:
Helixstein wrote:
Well, according to the Bible, Jesus and God are one of the same, which I find ludicrous.


Not the Bible (TNKH). Rather the Gospels and only Paul taught it.


Do you have any examples? I cannot think of any. I believe the idea of "'God' incarnate" is only extrapolation and not actually presented anywhere within Scripture.


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24 Aug 2010, 11:24 am

He might plant a bunch of fruit trees in his yard and sit on his deck with a shotgun all day. IR cameras would monitor the trees during the night and any motion would trigger an alarm get him up and running. Most of the the alarms would probably be set off by ground hogs and gofers, so he devises a plan to flood them out of his yard, with his garden hose. He meticulously floods his yard for six days, and out of exhaustion, gives up and rests on the seventh.



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24 Aug 2010, 11:45 am

mgran wrote:
Read the New Testament and find out.


We are told that Jesus is God and He is Jewish. Right? "I and My Father, are one".

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24 Aug 2010, 12:24 pm

One of us? topic

Just a slob. :P


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24 Aug 2010, 2:33 pm

ruveyn wrote:
We are told that Jesus is God ...


Some people say that -- Scripture does not.

ruveyn wrote:
"I and My Father, are one".


Just as any son might be his own father's namesake.


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24 Aug 2010, 2:59 pm

ruveyn wrote:
mgran wrote:
Read the New Testament and find out.


We are told that Jesus is God and He is Jewish. Right? "I and My Father, are one".

ruveyn


Jesus' disciples were also Jewish as was Paul, however only Jesus was God incarnate.

"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this."
(Isaiah 9:6-7)

And regarding Him, and what would happen to him,

"Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed? For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors."
(Isaiah 53:1-12)