The courts and getting a job?

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Now, say my plans for a state-sponsored DVR don't exactly work out the way I plan. I'm more worried about getting all of the appropriate records from past doctors, which nobody in my family seemed to have kept after so many years. I have a few records, but they're not recent. They say they'll test me and stuff again, but I don't trust state agencies. I remember how hard it was to get SSI way back in the day, which I never really did get because they said that my parents made too much or something. My parents no longer support me, since I'm well over eighteen, but anyway. I don't necessarily trust state agencies, because they are so corrupt, so demeaning and so financially phobic. Maybe I'm worrying too much, or maybe not. Who knows? I already have an appointment this Friday, so we'll see what happens.

But, say, I was to take another approach. Say I went to an employer who refused my application. Say I walked in the office and did something minor but highly eccentric, like threaten suicide or something, marking up my arm with a piece of glass or even a razor blade, or whatever. This would ensure that the police would be called, and because of the bizarre nature of the event, would most likely mean that I would be taken down for a psychiatric evaluation. Most likely, I would assume, that the courts would then place me into a sponsored program.

The thing is this ... Would an act like this qualify the courts to send me into such a program?

- Ray M -

The court system would be more likely to commit you to a psychiatric center where you have even less rights than you do now and cannot leave. Threatening suicide is also a misdemenor in some states and can actually result in prison time too. Trust me, neither option is good and I would suggest not following through with your plan.

As far as VR, if they are willing to pay to find out if you have AS or not, take advantage of it. Unlike SSI, whose workers are paid to make sure only those who really need it are allowed to get it, state VR workers are paid to get persons like yourself to be viable members of the workforce. Their job is to get you a job and their success or failure is dependent on that.

Aeturnus, I can relate to your problem. My aspie partner needed his diagnosis updated and we could not afford the fees. He seriously thought about getting himself arrested for some minor crime, such as making a scene at a bus stop. And then he planned that when it went to court, my partner would have the judge rule that my partner could not go to trial and be judged until he was assessed for AS. In this way he hoped to get his diagnosis updated and the services he required. I was even willing to go along with the idea. We actually saw this as our only option for getting him affordable adequate services. So I can relate to your idea of having yourself admitted to a psych ward in order to get services.

If VR is going to assess you I think it will go alright. The previous poster is correct. These organizations (at least where I live) make their money from how many clients they can bring into their programs. I would think it would be to their benefit to assess you as disabled. These organizations are all contracted out now, and paid according to how many clients they bring in.

Where I live the only thing to watch out for in VR type programs is that they often are guilty of "creaming" - they have to keep their success rate up for placing people and so tend to screen out any clients who would seem to have little success in employment.

I know what the problem is, I think, in regards to not finding employment. I am 32 years old with very little experience, other than menial jobs I had through college. I had gone to college for like ten years, and apparently most students are supposed to do things like internships. Well, that would have been not good for me, because I had enough trouble passing a few courses as it was, and I dropped quite a few and retook them to maintain a B average. Now, all I seem to get are low-wage positions that are boring as hell and that you can't live off of. I'm living with my parents, but I want to get away from them, too, not move far away, but just get out of the house. Things are quite overwhelming with my mother being sick and all, and my father, he's not much more than a selfish bastard.

- Ray M -

A "B" average is above average performance. Most people couldn't maintain that grade, even if they did take courses over to improve it. I would think VR will see you as cream of the crop. If the programs are contracted out from government, as they are here, you should have no problem getting in. Those programs are looking for people like you.

I didn't know a B average is above performance. I thought than A average was above performance and a C average was below, with a B average being average performance. You can't pass college with a D or below, at least not the one I went to.

I just retrieved an entire stack of reports from my school district, and it featured past reports from doctors I never even knew I went to. All of this dating back to 1985 and things. There's IEPs and everything in there. If they don't take me in after looking over those, then there's something wrong with them...

Thanks fore replying.

- Ray M -

You can check out the meaning of the grade system for your country at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grade_(education)

I know that schools vary in their assessments but all the grading systems that I have seen in my student life put C+ as "average" and B as above average.

I've just got back from the appointment with the DVR girl. Things went well, and there was definite cause for me having some form of learning difficulties. After looking at a relatively large stack of past histories with doctors and all, she made an appointment for me to have a more recent and up-to-date psychological evaluation.

- Ray M -

I'm glad it went well Aeturnus. Employment programs are one of my interests. I have actually gone though the Freedom of Information and Privacy Act to find out all about them, who owns them, how they work, and how much money they make per client.