Religion Rules ( . . . .as in the rules of the forum)

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Malin
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14 Sep 2010, 10:35 am

Hello, I'm new.

I have a question about the Religion section. In the rules section was stated the following was prohibited:
1. Posting offensive language, comments, video, or images.
Unacceptable content includes swearing; racist, sexist, homophobic language; behavior intended to provoke or belittle other members; violent or sexually demeaning content; sexual fetish; and discussion of excretory function. Posting graphic images or videos of people or animals being harmed is prohibited.

Wouldn't this preclude quoting a good many Religious texts? Are Monotheists (Jews, Christians and Muslims) not allowed to suggest that women ought to be stoned to death, have hands cut off, et c., as the holy books state? This is clearly sexist, and a basic tenant of the Abrahamic tradition.

What about the Racism? What about all the races which are not allowed into Churches (see Deutoronomy 20 especially). What about the Islamic mandates for Women to cover their faces? What about the sexually demeaning content? What of 'A man may not lie with another man as with a woman for it is an abomination'?

Can we discuss a homophobic book without saying homophobic things?

Of course this may sound slightly nit-picking, but I do honestly want to know if posting Bible quotes will get someone thrown off the Religion forum.



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14 Sep 2010, 11:05 am

It may depend on the context, for example calling someone these terrible things is different from discussing the people do the calling.

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14 Sep 2010, 11:07 am

Play it by ear and have tough skin. I'd say just jump right in.

The only thing I'd say other than that is that this is mostly freedom of speech realm. Including all the pitfalls of freedom of speech.


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14 Sep 2010, 3:06 pm

Where in Scotland you from Malin?


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15 Sep 2010, 9:33 am

The important thing is to not attack the individual and give them respect even if you do not agree with the way they act and so on...



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15 Sep 2010, 11:10 am

PPR technically has the same rules as the rest of WP, but in practice is allowed a bit of flex because of the nature of the forum. Basically, if you stick to attacking ideas, don't make personal attacks on other posters, and heavily qualify personal beliefs that may be offensive (lot's of "I feel" and "in my opinon" type statements) you'll be OK. You can discuss almost anything in here so long as you're reasonably civil about it. Try not to spam the forum with redundant threads either, that's annoying and brings the mods.


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17 Sep 2010, 9:33 am

Cheers all, though I must say Dox 47, I'm not a big fan of the word 'opinion'. If someone says 'That's just what I believe' then they don't believe it. People never say 'It's 4 o' Clock, but that's just my opinion', they just say that it is 4 and anyone disagreeing is wrong.

In answer to Patrick, I'm from nowhere, - a very secluded west coast spot, but currently inhabiting Glasgow.
Are you also in Scotland?



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17 Sep 2010, 11:07 am

Malin wrote:
Cheers all, though I must say Dox 47, I'm not a big fan of the word 'opinion'. If someone says 'That's just what I believe' then they don't believe it. People never say 'It's 4 o' Clock, but that's just my opinion', they just say that it is 4 and anyone disagreeing is wrong.

In answer to Patrick, I'm from nowhere, - a very secluded west coast spot, but currently inhabiting Glasgow.
Are you also in Scotland?


In my opinion ;) an opinion is a conclusion that is drawn from an independent perspective gained from observable facts. Opinions vary according to perspective. When I talk about Christianity, for example, I can quote scripture. The FACT is that the Bible is a source of scripture and, in the case of Christianity, it is THE source for scripture. It is a FACT that the book of Genesis describes creation as having occurred over a 6-day period. The Bible does NOT say that those 6 days were necessarily consecutive, nor is it contradictory to believe the days were nonconsecutive or non-24-hour days. Literalists can agree on the chronology (or the order in time, rather) of the "days" of creation, but the Bible does not support YC, OC, or even evolution/abiogenesis/Big Bang/M Theory/etc. So whether the earth is 6,000 years old, 6 Billion years old, or anything in between is a matter of opinion until such things can possibly be firmly established.

Much of Christian doctrine and practice is built on a number of opinions based on the Gospels and Epistles. We've established the facts that there was a man named Jesus and that, through His works, demonstrated that He was and is the promised Messiah. Of that there is no dispute. But whether there ought to be prayers for the dead depends on the opinions of those who practice it. What Biblical support is there for it? According to us Protestants, there is none. For Catholics, there is the inclusion of OT apocrypha not even believed by the Jews to have been inspired writings that does lend only vague support (though it's a misquote from "scripture" taken out of context). Thus it is only my opinion that apocrypha should NOT be included in the modern Bible, whereas a Catholic might argue otherwise. Even in Paul's writings, he expressed his opinion that men and women should not marry but practice lifelong celibacy. Such is clearly marked as a personal sentiment and should by no mean been seen as applicable to all people in all situations. If all Christians practiced this, Christianity would be nonexistent in less than a century.