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16 Sep 2010, 12:49 am

http://movies.ign.com/articles/677/677739p5.html

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5) The Empire Strikes Back
4) Alien
3) Star Wars
2) 2001: A Space Odyssey
1) Blade Runner



I can't disagree. Blade Runner is one of my all time favorite movies of any genre. I like the original theatrical version (North America) best.

So, do you think IGN got it right?

I do.


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16 Sep 2010, 4:30 am

Where is 'Forbidden Planet"


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16 Sep 2010, 4:32 am

How do you watch 2001 without getting bored to tears? :?


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16 Sep 2010, 5:20 am

Pistonhead wrote:
How do you watch 2001 without getting bored to tears? :?


I think it's a generational thing.

Because of the quick cutting, fast paced mass media younger people are exposed to they have a sort of generation wide artificial ADD.

If you're raised on Mtv and anime, it's no wonder you don't have the patients for a story like 2001. I'd imagine most wouldn't be able to sit through Blade Runner either.


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16 Sep 2010, 5:24 am

Pistonhead wrote:
How do you watch 2001 without getting bored to tears? :?

by not being stupid



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16 Sep 2010, 6:46 am

GoonSquad wrote:
Blade Runner is one of my all time favorite movies of any genre. I like the original theatrical version (North America) best.

I'd prefer the Director's Cut and Final Cut.


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16 Sep 2010, 10:26 am

Alien doesn't interest me. Haven't seen Blade Runner*. Haven't seen 2001: A Space Odyssey**. Wasted a spot by basically listing Star Wars twice. Could have just said "First Star Wars Trilogy".


I like some of the recent history like Moon, A Scanner Darkly, eXistenZ, Minority Report, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. I enjoyed the Hitchhiker's Guide adaptation but I wish they could have worked in a bit more hard science into it if only just because Douglas Adams was always so great at explaining complicated theoretical physics ideas into ways that lay people can understand.

One movie that was done on a really small budget but that I thought was an absolutely great work of science fiction without being mired in space or technology was The Man from Earth. It was written by one of the original Star Trek writers, Jerome Bixby, and is absolutely brilliant.


*Kinda interested but not really sold because I'm not a big Ridley Scott fan. He's more an action movie guy and I'm not an action movie guy.

**Very interested but Kubrick is someone that I really have to be in the right mood to take it in.


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16 Sep 2010, 3:33 pm

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Just to clarify, I think the Final Cut is probably the superior version of the story. However, I really love the voiceover in the original… a version of the film nobody could see for nearly 25 years! I had the privilege of seeing that version in a theater in 1982. I’m glad to be able to see it again.

My advice to anybody new to the film, watch the original cut, and then watch the final cut.

@skafather84,

Wow, I envy you that you haven’t seen so many good films!! ! I’d love to watch 2001, Alien, and Blade Runner again for the first time !

Alien and Blade Runner, the TWO Ridely Scott films on the list are not action films. Alien has a really interesting sci-fi story hidden underneath its truly great horror movie and Blade Runner is a beautiful film that asks some truly ugly/troubling questions about what it means to be human. Both are great films and worth the time of anyone with a couple of brain cells to rub together…

Blade Runner is particularly relevant to people with Asperger's.

I urge you to see both.


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16 Sep 2010, 3:41 pm

I watched Alien last night on Channel 4, Aliens is on tonight at 11:35pm and Alien 3 is on tommorow.



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16 Sep 2010, 3:50 pm

GoonSquad wrote:
@skafather84,

Wow, I envy you that you haven’t seen so many good films!! ! I’d love to watch 2001, Alien, and Blade Runner again for the first time !

Alien and Blade Runner, the TWO Ridely Scott films on the list are not action films. Alien has a really interesting sci-fi story hidden underneath its truly great horror movie and Blade Runner is a beautiful film that asks some truly ugly/troubling questions about what it means to be human. Both are great films and worth the time of anyone with a couple of brain cells to rub together…

Blade Runner is particularly relevant to people with Asperger's.

I urge you to see both.



I might check out Blade Runner (Philip K Dick's books normally provide enough to make their movie counterparts interesting) but Alien just doesn't interest me.


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16 Sep 2010, 5:52 pm

saintetienne wrote:
Pistonhead wrote:
How do you watch 2001 without getting bored to tears? :?

by not being stupid


No, by reading the novel simultaneously.

Did IGN get it right or wrong? Technically, it's irrelevant, as their opinion and mine would differ. Personally, I would put District 9 and Jurassic Park higher, and the original Star Wars in the top slot, although Blade Runner would be pretty much in the top five anyway.

Oh, and iceb, Forbidden Planet was 19 on the list.


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16 Sep 2010, 6:13 pm

Finally read the list and all I gotta say is "to each his own." A little too many popcorn movies. I love Back to the Future but I'm not sure I'd ever put it on a list. Maybe the second one just for the sake of their vision of the future and the concept of parallel dimensions created via shifts in the time continuum but not the first one.

I can't agree less with placing Avatar(d) on any list. That movie was complete garbage in terms of actual plot and nothing more than something shiny.

I'm kinda surprised they'd put all these popcorn movies in the list but not include either of the "Escape from" movies.


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17 Sep 2010, 9:46 am

Watched Blade Runner last night. I approve. Not sure #1 but certainly top 5.


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17 Sep 2010, 10:31 am

skafather84 wrote:
Watched Blade Runner last night. I approve. Not sure #1 but certainly top 5.


So, I hafta ask, is Rick Deckard a replicant or not?


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17 Sep 2010, 11:07 am

GoonSquad wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Watched Blade Runner last night. I approve. Not sure #1 but certainly top 5.


So, I hafta ask, is Rick Deckard a replicant or not?


I'd think his weakness would indicate he wasn't. If he were a replicant, wouldn't he be as strong and agile as the others? Unless maybe he was a Nexus 5 or something that didn't expire.


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17 Sep 2010, 3:09 pm

That’s a good point. I think there’s no doubt Deckard is human in the original cut. However, in the director’s cut and final cut it is not so clear.

People who think Deckard is a skinjob point to the way his eyes glow when he’s talking to Rachael in his apartment (Rachael, Roy, and Pris all have eye glow too). Also, they point to Deckard’s unicorn dream and Gaff’s unicorn origami—claiming Gaff must have seen Deckard’s file (as Deckard saw Rachael’s).

Honestly, I’m not sure what Deckard is, and that’s one of the reasons I love the movie so much.

To confuse things even more, Ridley Scott says Deckard is a replicant. Harrison Ford says he played Deckard as human and the screenwriter says he wrote Deckard as human…


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