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23 May 2006, 4:55 am

I went and saw the movie with a girl this evening, hooyaa.

My naive and aloof nature is what makes up part of my charm, according to her, okiedoke…

http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/thedavincicode/

It was interesting but movies continue to make religious folks seem crazy. It was a bit long..

It did make me think of my interests of belief in general.

Have you seen the movie? What did you think of it? Anything relevant to speak of?



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23 May 2006, 6:20 am

Pfft. Just finished reading the book today. Intriguing, but I cannot understand the full hype of it.


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23 May 2006, 6:34 am

For some reason reading fiction my mind does not work with well.

It's imagining all of it or something, seems boring.



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23 May 2006, 6:58 am

Textbooks are just better...

I do not think I liked this movie..

More then likely the only relevant parts were mentioned as facsimiles and that has to do with Carl Jung and the archetype and synchronicity.


If the movie has Adam Sandler or Robin Williams in it I like it.

I should write a movie script one day, I'd likely do a better job then some of these movies out.



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23 May 2006, 8:41 am

From the local paper's youth page reviewer, from a kid who enjoyed the book ...

"da Vinci. Not worth da money."



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23 May 2006, 9:00 am

My pastor is doing a a whole list of sermons on the flasehood of it. I'm not going to see it anyway.


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23 May 2006, 10:26 am

I saw it. I liked it. I think I am going to see it again...after X-Men, though. The hype is easy to understand if you think about it. The premise of the book refutes the deity of Christ, calls the early Christian church false, and pretty much says the Catholic church is responsible for covering up the secret in order to maintain power. What isn't there to hype?

I don't agree with ANY of Dan Brown's hypothesis, and even a cursory bit of research into the Knights Templar, the Crusades, Emperor Constantine, the history of the Bible---pretty much every historical fact the book uses to "prove" its premise--essentially disproves it. It is fascinating, though, to see the warping of small bits of truth into full-blown conspiracy theories, and it is troubling to watch and read the reactions of those who believe it without taking the time to research it themselves. After all, if it is written in a book, played in a movie, and plastered all over the media it HAS to be true. I was waiting in line and overheard someone say "I have never set foot in church after I read the book, it is that disturbing." Much to the chagrine of my friends, I asked him if he had even looked into anything Dan Brown was talking about. His answer: "Why should I?"

THAT is disturbing to me.

But the movie is just like the book: all action until the mystery solved, and then once there is no more suspense to keep you reading, there is no more reason to read the book, especially after the whole Teabing discussion of what the Grail actually is. (I laughed the first time I read the book.) The first two hours are cool, but the last 20 just suck. (Of course, that is based on a one-time viewing, so it might change after I see it again.)

In the end, I am comfortable with people calling me an idiot for believing without any sort of empirical proof that God exists, that Jesus was the son of God, not a mere mortal, and that this is just an entertaining story with the fallout being an even more interesting sociological analysis. It's okay.


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23 May 2006, 10:43 am

It was not really a very good book. Just a bunch of ideas crammed into a halfbaked story.
Reminded me of "the celestine prophecy." I saw the movie yesterday, and was not really impressed.
It just seems very hollow, especially after all of the hype. This leads me to my next point.

I have my own theory, that this sort of thing is just part of the larger more subtle conspiracy.
Any sort of revolutionary social idea or movement inevitably gets absorbed back into the culture in this way. There is a lot of hype, then it becomes a fad, and fades out. Thus immunizing society against anymore freethinking in that general direction.
In years to come anyone attempting to put forth a similar but possibly more accurate accusation toward the early church will be confronted with "what is this another davincicode?"


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23 May 2006, 12:26 pm

The problem with any movie like this - lets just use The Passion of the Christ as another example - is that anyone who practices Christianity is going to hate it and disagree with their own selective portions of it. There's so many branches to Christianity, who all chose what they want to believe in.

I was raised a roman catholic, I chose to believe non of it. That is my view, my interpretation. It it allows me to look at this movie in a unbiased way. Whereas many immediately hate it because it cuts up something they are very passionate about and have their own opinions of it.

To me this movie wasnt even about the whole religion being based on something false... it was just a tangled web of puzzles and games and it was amazing to see how it was all tied into these rumours that are actually very real.

Anyone ever see StarGate? The movie, SG1 and Atlantis series all tie into these acient dieties and myths that date back to Egyptian times. Very similiar concept in many ways - but I bet if there was one person who still believed in those religions they'd be outright offended that their "gods" we depicted as humans who played host to snake like paracites.

Just some food for thought.



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23 May 2006, 1:49 pm

spacemonkey wrote:
It was not really a very good book. Just a bunch of ideas crammed into a halfbaked story.
Reminded me of "the celestine prophecy."


I agree the ideas were not new, and the writing was not good.

And The Celestine Prophecy was a total mess.
To call it half-baked would be to compliment it.

"The lunatic is all idee fixe, and whatever he comes across confirms his lunacy. You can tell him by the liberties he takes with common sense, by his flashes of inspiration, and by the fact that sooner or later he brings up the Templars."
<Opening of Chapter 7, Foucault's Pendulum, by Umberto Eco>

Now there's a book and a half, if you want history and conspiracy and interwoven truth and untruth and half-truth. And a clue or two that after all, he (Eco) is only joking.



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23 May 2006, 2:36 pm

Never saw the movie but I got the gist of the story from cowork who read the book.
I found this article about errors in the movie.

http://www.slate.com/id/2142157/?nav=tap3



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23 May 2006, 3:38 pm

I saw the film and really liked it, very interesting. Next step is to see X men 3.



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23 May 2006, 5:56 pm

While the stuff involving the Gnostic Gospels is of course plausible and indeed, more than possible(I'm not surprised at the "smear campaign" against Mary Magdalene), I actually did a cursory bit of research on Wikipedia. The "Priory of Sion" was actually established in 1956....

Never liked Opus Dei before I read the book, as I had read about their involvement with Franco's regime in Spain.


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24 May 2006, 4:30 pm

I have seen the movie and I liked it, but I would not take it too seriously. I mean it is a good movie, but if you analyze it more than it should be analyzed, you come to the conclusion that the fundamental premise is flawed.

i.e. even if a living descendent of Jesus was discovered alive and well today and the proof of this was incontrovertible, it would not end or devastate Christianity. Christians would still continue to believe whatever the hell they want to believe, regardless of common sense, rationality, reason, and evidence, as they have repeatedly proven they will do. They have faith. Faith means you simply ignore everything that contradicts your viewpoint -- it is a kind of psychological disorder that makes a person blind. Christians would just simply ignore the living descendent of Jesus, or twist the situation in a way that allows them to continue their insane beliefs.

In other words, a living descendent of Jesus being discovered would not really change much. The religion would continue much the same as it was. We are talking about a religion centered around a character that did not even exist -- Jesus is just a fictional character in some stories. There is no REAL credible evidence to prove that he existed or that he was like the person described in the stories. The christian bible is a work of fiction / mythology, and that is why it contains mythological stories like Noah's Ark, the world being created in 7 days, and a Jesus dude walking on water. It is all mythology, and yet Christians still believe in Christianity.

Even if Jesus himself literally descended from heaven tomorrow, sporting wings and a white robe, and incontrovertibly proved who he was by performing some miracles and walking on water, and then demanded that Christians disband Christianity, they would ignore him and refuse to end their religion. Christians do not worship Jesus or God. Christians worship Christianity itself.



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24 May 2006, 5:02 pm

i saw the movie and read the book. i thought the movie was awesome(though slightly long)There were protesters standing outside on the curb of the theatre protesting the movie. They were waving signs and everything. I find church boring and count every second i'm inside of church but i still have my own theories that i'll keep. The Da Vinci Code did not change my theories. Theory-an idea not yet proven as a fact with substantial evidence.


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24 May 2006, 5:44 pm

I haven't read the book or seen the movie, but I understand it is a mystery novel, so I don't know why does the christian church make a big deal out of it. I think it's just dumb.