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04 Oct 2010, 9:55 pm

Should condoms, birth control pills, and tube tying be banned?

A sperm cell is as much a lifeform as a week old fetish is. For those who are against abortion.

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04 Oct 2010, 10:07 pm

No, and anyone who thinks they should is a moron.

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04 Oct 2010, 10:08 pm

No, they aren't. they don't meet the 7 traits that all living things have. plus, as sperm and eegs will die as part of the body's natural functions and embryos will generally not, you'd be setting an unrealistic standard.

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04 Oct 2010, 11:12 pm

you_are_what_you_is wrote:

No, and anyone who thinks they should is a moron

Moron, Catholic, or both.

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04 Oct 2010, 11:14 pm

RetNet56 wrote:

Should condoms, birth control pills, and tube tying be banned?

A sperm cell is as much a lifeform as a week old fetish is. For those who are against abortion.

A week old fetish has much more life than a year old fetish.

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05 Oct 2010, 12:43 am

unless you get millions of women pregnant daily you're always going to waste a few sperm

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05 Oct 2010, 12:47 am

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05 Oct 2010, 12:52 am

If a spermatozoid is considered as a lifeform, each ejaculation is a genocide. EVEN if it leads to a pregnancy which ends with a birth.

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05 Oct 2010, 12:59 am

Psychopompos wrote:

If a spermatozoid is considered as a lifeform, each ejaculation is a genocide. EVEN if it leads to a pregnancy which ends with a birth.

but what if the sperm grows up to be a human just like you or i?

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05 Oct 2010, 1:03 am

A sperm has no more significance in and of itself than a germ. We kill germs and have no scruples. Why should we have scruples killing sperms. Besides most of them are going to die without fertilizing an egg anyway.

And what of a fertilized egg? It is not a sentient being so there is no wrong in its owner destroying it.

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05 Oct 2010, 1:16 am

Most zygotes are spontaneously aborted (ie, miscarried in non-medical parlance) before they implant, and without the woman ever knowing that fertilization occurred.

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05 Oct 2010, 1:26 am

ruveyn wrote:

And what of a fertilized egg? It is not a sentient being so there is no wrong in its owner destroying it.

I could question whether my pet cat is sentient

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05 Oct 2010, 2:00 am

ruveyn wrote:

And what of a fertilized egg? It is not a sentient being so there is no wrong in its owner destroying it.

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but it is human and alive.

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05 Oct 2010, 2:31 am

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you_are_what_you_is wrote:

No, and anyone who thinks they should is a moron

Moron, Catholic, or both.

Nope. Believing in God does not mean believing everything your nut job leaders tell you.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/the-pope/7995094/Pope-visit-Most-Catholics-oppose-church-teaching-on-sex.html

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05 Oct 2010, 2:45 am

Believing in the bible does, Romans 13:1

"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God."

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05 Oct 2010, 2:58 am

considering the fact that being Christian ment commiting treason against Rome, I think that was more saying "do not violently oppose governing authorities." besides, there is ambiguity as to whom the authority has been given. I mean, revolutionaries like the founding fathers established a new government whle rebelling against an old one. who's authority was legit?

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