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27 Jan 2013, 7:24 am

Heh. Appears as if a sexist comment of mine was deleted.
A'right.
I think a lot of jaded guys (By the way I've never been rejected or even tried to go out with a lady or have been hurt by a lady) are jaded because of this Alpha male attitude women have that's just well...It makes me not want to even bother. Not because I'm not an alpha male either, it's because of how shallow women appear to be. It's just upsetting, I thought it was just a myth spouted by guys that can't get laid and only a minority of women adhered to that s**t. But this thread has made me think otherwise by the amount of women lovin' dem alphas, even the AS ones.
I think a lot of it isn't to do with "f**k WHY WON'T WOMEN LOVE ME?". But genuine pain over how women are. Being sold a lie from age 0.
Like finding out your idol is a monster. There. A perfect analogy. Your idol turning out to be a monster.
You either have desperately lonely guys or asexual guys around here.
I think I know why they're asexual.



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27 Jan 2013, 7:36 am

Moppy wrote:
Heh. Appears as if a sexist comment of mine was deleted.
A'right.
I think a lot of jaded guys (By the way I've never been rejected or even tried to go out with a lady or have been hurt by a lady) are jaded because of this Alpha male attitude women have that's just well...It makes me not want to even bother. Not because I'm not an alpha male either, it's because of how shallow women appear to be. It's just upsetting, I thought it was just a myth spouted by guys that can't get laid and only a minority of women adhered to that sh**. But this thread has made me think otherwise by the amount of women lovin' dem alphas, even the AS ones.
I think a lot of it isn't to do with "f**k WHY WON'T WOMEN LOVE ME?". But genuine pain over how women are. Being sold a lie from age 0.
Like finding out your idol is a monster. There. A perfect analogy. Your idol turning out to be a monster.
You either have desperately lonely guys or asexual guys around here.
I think I know why they're asexual.

i don't understand how the multiple women in the thread saying that they can and will and do date aspie men has led you to that sexist conclusion. 8O that is... weird. did you maybe read another thread, or did you only read the men's responses in the thread?


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27 Jan 2013, 7:37 am

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billiscool wrote:
actual there has been study on men and women average number of partner.
and both men and women have equal amount of partner. the things is women lie about number of partner they have.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3 ... -lies.html

study shows that nt men and women have more or less equal numbers of partner
but when you compare aspie men and aspie women. aspie women have way more partner than aspie men do.


We were talking about dates, not partners, big difference.


what's the difference.

sex partners are not the same thing as dating partners.


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27 Jan 2013, 8:12 am

Yeah but they'd only date aspie men because there were no alpha as f**k guys around.
To me it seems as if women prioritize the alpha thing over everything else. What I mean is, if there was this geek who liked the same things she did, and a manly man. She'd go for the manly man. Maybe that's wrong of me, and if I'm wrong, well that's all good. Maybe it's wrong of me for a different reason, and this is the world we're living in and I'm just still living in the world of my 13 year old self of everyone's "different" and the world is made out of different types. I wouldn't be so upset if I didn't just see the same template over and over again.
Everywhere around the world I just see cookie cutted shapes of people, with just trivial differences like, some like x, some like y. But at the heart they're both Z.
I want a world with lots of difference. It's like if you get a videogame and the advert says "A BAZZILION GUNS". When in fact there's only 100 types of guns, with different textures to make 20000 other guns. I'm not thinking of any game inperticular, but I hope you get my point.
Hell, I am a shut in, maybe that's what's caused this bizzare view. For instance, I suppose you view butterfly to be all the same and their differences are only trivial and they're just butterfly afterall.
That's what humanity boils down to basically.
Damn. I don't think I'm sexist.
I just, I think all women I've seen, (and most men mind you) I don't approve of their behaviour.
It's like, if you have some guys doing some weird BDSM stuff in their basement. You wouldn't approve, you wouldn't exactly be against them though (unless you're into that, or a fascist).
But if the entire world is into bdsm s**t, and it's all you've ever seen. Well, you're not going to be very happy living with people, and would it be fascist to want something that's NOT just bdsm and people doing weird stuff?
Women have told me it's sexist to not want a woman, and to want a special type a woman.
I don't think it's sexist to not want something you don't like.
....I lost what my point was a lot of sentences ago.



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27 Jan 2013, 8:15 am

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Yeah but they'd only date aspie men because there were no alpha as f**k guys around.
To me it seems as if women prioritize the alpha thing over everything else. What I mean is, if there was this geek who liked the same things she did, and a manly man. She'd go for the manly man. Maybe that's wrong of me, and if I'm wrong, well that's all good. Maybe it's wrong of me for a different reason, and this is the world we're living in and I'm just still living in the world of my 13 year old self of everyone's "different" and the world is made out of different types. I wouldn't be so upset if I didn't just see the same template over and over again.
Everywhere around the world I just see cookie cutted shapes of people, with just trivial differences like, some like x, some like y. But at the heart they're both Z.
I want a world with lots of difference. It's like if you get a videogame and the advert says "A BAZZILION GUNS". When in fact there's only 100 types of guns, with different textures to make 20000 other guns. I'm not thinking of any game inperticular, but I hope you get my point.
Hell, I am a shut in, maybe that's what's caused this bizzare view. For instance, I suppose you view butterfly to be all the same and their differences are only trivial and they're just butterfly afterall.
That's what humanity boils down to basically.
Damn. I don't think I'm sexist.
I just, I think all women I've seen, (and most men mind you) I don't approve of their behaviour.
It's like, if you have some guys doing some weird BDSM stuff in their basement. You wouldn't approve, you wouldn't exactly be against them though (unless you're into that, or a fascist).
But if the entire world is into bdsm sh**, and it's all you've ever seen. Well, you're not going to be very happy living with people, and would it be fascist to want something that's NOT just bdsm and people doing weird stuff?
Women have told me it's sexist to not want a woman, and to want a special type a woman.
I don't think it's sexist to not want something you don't like.
....I lost what my point was a lot of sentences ago.

no, many women on the board specifically date men with AS, myself included. i happen to think my partner is awesome, and i do not like men who would fit the "alpha" type. it is a sexist assumption for you to think that all women prefer alpha men. they don't prefer men like that, and they are constantly proving it.


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27 Jan 2013, 8:23 am

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I guess I'm sexist.
I blame the media, and the things people say on the internet.
Tell you what is my downfall. Perfectionism.



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27 Jan 2013, 8:30 am

Oh but tell me this, what are the chances of ever meeting a girl at the age of 21 who's AS and has never had a boyfriend?
But the chances of a guy is higher.
Sexist world.



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27 Jan 2013, 8:38 am

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Oh but tell me this, what are the chances of ever meeting a girl at the age of 21 who's AS and has never had a boyfriend?
But the chances of a guy is higher.
Sexist world.

in my real world experiences, the dating chances of aspie men and women were roughly equal. how many aspies have you met in real life?

by the way, the media has nothing to do with it. if you hold sexist ideas, you are responsible for them and can let go of them at any time. they are not serving you and will not help you in any way, so if you cling to them that's your own choice. they are not real and are not true, so what's the point in holding onto them?


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27 Jan 2013, 8:48 am

Is the average Christian going to stop believing in god just because someone said there's no proof?
Oh and also, that's a bit, bollocks.
Men and women don't have the same chances.



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27 Jan 2013, 8:49 am

Moppy wrote:
Is the average Christian going to stop believing in god just because someone said there's no proof?
Oh and also, that's a bit, bollocks.
Men and women don't have the same chances.

this isn't about Christianity, this is about real life.


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27 Jan 2013, 8:53 am

I know. I was using analogy to make a point.
I sure as hell don't like my view on the world. It's not a nice view and it doesn't make me happy. Now why don't I just stop believing in it?
Surely if it was that easy I would have stopped by now.
But you're asking me to change my morality, which isn't an easy thing to do.
Wait.
I want to know, how am I sexist? If I don't know what I'm doing wrong then, well, can't not be sexist.



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27 Jan 2013, 9:07 am

Moppy wrote:
I know. I was using analogy to make a point.
I sure as hell don't like my view on the world. It's not a nice view and it doesn't make me happy. Now why don't I just stop believing in it?
Surely if it was that easy I would have stopped by now.
But you're asking me to change my morality, which isn't an easy thing to do.
Wait.
I want to know, how am I sexist?

you already knew your post that i removed was sexist, before i even had a chance to contact you. so i do not think that it is a big mystery to you.

you have a skewed idea of how gender relations occur. if it were actually true, about 1% of men would be doing most of the dating in a polygynous society. or at least, all of the women would be fighting each other to get to a certain select few men. but that is not true, obviously. men are varied and individual in their personalities and women are varied and individual in their tastes (and vice versa).

to paint women as settling for aspie guys because "there is no one else to f**k" is frankly and blatantly sexist - there can be no doubt that it paints them in the worst possible light. and it isn't even true - many women choose one man over another for myriad reasons other than alpha status.

you can believe what you want to believe, but keep the actual sexist rants off the board.


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27 Jan 2013, 9:25 am

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27 Jan 2013, 2:25 pm

I like guys who are like me, so I tend to go for men with more AS qualities. In my area, very few adults actually have awareness of adult AS, so it's not like I can just ask a man if he is or not. NT men are overwhelming for me because they expect me to act in ways that I completely do not understand. I tend to stay single longer and have much shorter relationships for this reason.


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29 Jan 2013, 11:46 pm

quesonrias wrote:
I like guys who are like me, so I tend to go for men with more AS qualities. In my area, very few adults actually have awareness of adult AS, so it's not like I can just ask a man if he is or not. NT men are overwhelming for me because they expect me to act in ways that I completely do not understand. I tend to stay single longer and have much shorter relationships for this reason.


There really is a need for local social groups for autistics. There are plenty of support groups, but none that are for purely social reasons. I hope Alex can pull off the Wrong Planet conference that is proposed in another thread.



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29 Jan 2013, 11:59 pm

ShelbyGt500 wrote:
There really is a need for local social groups for autistics. There are plenty of support groups, but none that are for purely social reasons. I hope Alex can pull off the Wrong Planet conference that is proposed in another thread.


I agree. The closest one to me is over an hour away. It's not that easy for me to attend with an erratic schedule and questionable transportation.

A conference would be awesome. I do have quite a bit of vacation time I need to start taking. LOL


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