theocracy in America

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For one, I do believe Bush adm had a hand in 9/11... It mirrors every other dictator's path that has came down the pipe, he illegally gains power (stealing the election), stages a major attack... which gives him an excuse to send us to war, highten security, restore faith in the system and make a half-ass attempt to justify spying on American citizens.
His cabinet are FULL of former Christian Coalition members such as Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, and more, who have PUBLICLY voiced their disapproval on the equality of other faiths (just watch the 700 club you'll see the most nazi sickening propaganda ever). They've passed political policies based off their secular religion, which only alienates over half of America. It is no secret Bush is a billionaire in the oil industry and owns Fox News. These beaurocrats have also taken control over our artistic outlets such as music (Mtv), to use to brainwash the younger generations to become careless and apathetic, and embrace deliberate trend stupidity...
Theyr setting up a police state here in America. Our constitution will be replaced by the 10 commandments. Get ready!

I'd lay off the media news if I were you... Oh even though it happened before to other people we're special because you live here and bad things in history like this don't happen to you, because your a special exception in the way the universe runs. In case you haven't figured it out I'm being sarcastic.

Theocracy? That is ridiculous, Bush is losing or has lost way too much power to even maintain such a system. He lacks the popularity or military strength of past dictators, and I doubt that he is a billionaire, he is probably just a millionaire and he does not own fox news, fox news is biased but he does not own it. Also, nobody tries to reinforce apathy onto the American population, we are apathetic because we think we are on top and other activities are more satisfying than voting and getting exercise and stuff like that. I mean, we are an apathetic country and we are also a very fat nation, I think that there is a common characteristic between too lazy to vote and too lazy to exercise. Pretty much things here are not going down quickly, maybe slowly but not quickly.

I watch soemthing about this theocraic college that is one hour from the Washington D.C. they scared me! Too much hope and not enough pratical stuff.

Thanks...I agree to an extent. While I don't think that it's a pure theocracy, I do think that the church too much power in the government. The policies taken on abortion, gay rights, etc. are examples of this, as is the unconstitutional adding of the words "under god" to the pledge of allegiance, which some teachers require all their students to at least stand for. The first amendment in general has been abused, though, not just the bit dealing with freedom of religion.

No, Bush himself is not powerful enough to own Fox, but the government in general has definitive control of the media, and meanwhile money-grubbing corporations have definitve control of the government itself. While the corporations technically run the media, the government works as their enforcer. Or at least, that's my "paranoid" theory, and I don't do any drugs, not even caffine or alchohol. Nor do I think that the government is "out to get me," or can read my thoughts or any of that.

Well, the fact that the gay marriage amendment was shot down is proof that the idea of a theocracy is ludicrious, a theocracy would have approved such an action in a heart beat. There is bias in the system and we cannot stop people from voting with their beliefs but this does not mean that the system is a failure or anything of that nature, only that it is an imperfect system like any other.

if you favor a ban on gay marriage, you're stupid.


as far as theocracy goes....it's scary because it's a pendulum....it's gaining up momentum to swing both ways. it'll be nasty when the swing to a real theocracy takes place....if it does....it probably will. the religion gene is too prevalent.

There is some scary stuff online about the dominionists. It does make me wonder. If they do start publicly stoning nonbelievers, I guess we'll know they're for real.

If this country becomes such an entity (pun intended) I find two things likely:

1) the constitution will not be replaced by the ten commandments. I am not certain what it will be replaced by, or even if the rules will be written down, but it will not be replaced by a more coherent form of what it already attempts to stand for.

2) the true nature of government will be hidden with great care. Part and parcel of effectual centralized despotism is appearing to be precisely the oposite to the masses while being far greater than the reality to the 'party members'. There are always three views to despotism: the view to 'non-members', which is a lie; the view to members, which is also a lie; and the reality of the matter.

The goal of an ideology is to motivlate one's followers while manipulating the masses, and denying the truth to both groups so as to advance the fortune of the 'glorious leader'.

D. Y.

Do not forget the world trade center was a faith based attack by musliums. The chistain right is no better than them in fact they have alot in common.

Here is a link about a book about called THE FUNDAMENTALS OF EXTREMISM
The Christian Right in America
Edited by Kimberly Blaker
http://www.newbostonbooks.com/ i have read this book and it is some scary stuff
here a table of contents pdf file
http://www.newbostonbooks.com/Table%20of%20Contents.pdf
and a little bit more
http://www.newbostonbooks.com/Articles- ... remism.pdf

To the majority of and the common believers that are Christians don’t have such extremist ideals. Watch out for the exaggerations and propaganda, unless you’re just seeking to enhance a view based upon exaggerations.

When in poverty, extremism is more bountiful, in a healthy economy it is less likely.

* Edit for spelling error, spell check did something wierd.

You are right SC most theists are nice human beings who have a live and allow to live view. The guys iam talking about and in that book do not have that view. Yes that was some exaggeration on my part.

the dominionists are America's taliban... But they don't represent decent christians just like al qieda doesn't represent decent muslims.

I think there is always a mistake when extremisms or a group giving an example of poor behaviors becomes the representation of the whole. Well that's the nature of politics.

Even with what is written, like it is a course of evolution spiritually within its material, is either no longer valid (certain parts) or taken to literally and or not concerned with another teaching relevent to.

One common theme in religion I think is Mercy. Having mercy, but the deeds of a few or even a greater at a time past, is in no way what is now. So many interpretations, it is highly complex.

I will agree that another’s belief has no right to intrude upon another’s life unless it is a choice to. For instance the shrimp thread, I don’t’ eat it, if Christians don’t then that’s how they believe. However if belief wants to get rid of shrimp for everyone, then that’s messed up.


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Religion is just the tool their using to bring theocracy forward, so they can get a portion of the population to play secret police and to help them role out the red carpet for them, kinda like in George Orwell's 1984... I mean Bush and BinLaden go way back in family ties to the oil industry, it's likely they collaborated on setting up 9/11... Which explains why Bush adm continuously blocks one investigation after another by independant agencies... Because it did alot for the theocratic agenda, it got the wheels turning... Create a problem, create a solution. That's how they work.
Bush is a fundamentalist Christian exremist, BinLaden is a fundamentalist muslim extremist... So religion is just a tool here. It's really about 2 things, money and power, which can both be summed up in 1 word, greed.