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09 Dec 2010, 1:06 pm

i have been an advocate for this for well over a year now

what do you guys think?

http://www.livescience.com/health/05041 ... rview.html


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09 Dec 2010, 1:12 pm

Aubry De Gray is big on promises. I recommend anyone who is interested in this to read Kurzweil's book or watch some of the singularity summit presentation videos. He is always interesting to listen to and read.


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09 Dec 2010, 1:44 pm

I am looking forward to singularity. It's hard to find books on it. I went to Barnes and Nobles and Borders and nada. Can you believe it? Why isn't this more popular? Well, I just wrote a paper about nanotechnology. I'm very interested in it and only found out about it last month.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/44990763/Nano ... -to-Evolve



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09 Dec 2010, 1:52 pm

Banned_Magnus wrote:
I am looking forward to singularity. It's hard to find books on it. I went to Barnes and Nobles and Borders and nada. Can you believe it? Why isn't this more popular? Well, I just wrote a paper about nanotechnology. I'm very interested in it and only found out about it last month.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/44990763/Nano ... -to-Evolve


I managed to get a copy of Kurzweils latest book not that long ago through amazon. I could not find it in bookstores. I find nano tech quite interesting. As to the popularity of the singularity subject, most people simply do not get it.

Personally I think it is hard to have any firm feeling positive or negative about the possibility of a technological singularity. It's is good in some ways and very dangerous in others. A good place to start to understand the dangers of the matter is Bill Joy's wired article 'Why the Future Dosent Need Us'.


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09 Dec 2010, 1:57 pm

Well there goes the incentive to have children.



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09 Dec 2010, 2:10 pm

Literal "immortality" is impossible, as everything must go with the heat death of the Universe.


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09 Dec 2010, 3:48 pm

Master_Pedant wrote:
Literal "immortality" is impossible, as everything must go with the heat death of the Universe.


Amen. Or such alternative jumping off point as science or religion may from time to time predict or time reveal.

You would think there would be by now a small herd of alternatives to the said heat death. But unless someone knows something I don't, I do not expect to be in the universe at the time.



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09 Dec 2010, 3:51 pm

Okay, I broke down and checked the reference. Looks to me as if friend de Grey has not read enough 50s scifi or even Scientific American to be conscious of the hell on earth that would mean.

Let me off here, driver, I want to get off the earth and walk the rest of the way.



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09 Dec 2010, 5:34 pm

No.


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09 Dec 2010, 5:49 pm

Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely to happen? No

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09 Dec 2010, 6:20 pm

Yea telomerase.



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09 Dec 2010, 7:20 pm

I'd get pretty bored after a few thousand years.



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09 Dec 2010, 7:23 pm

I'll seriously consider to watch this video only when I'll see a car flying over my house.

The singularitarians are expert on stuff that don't exist.


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09 Dec 2010, 7:23 pm

Jacoby wrote:
I'd get pretty bored after a few thousand years.


Admittedly it requires mental flexibility.



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09 Dec 2010, 7:33 pm

I think its a good chance were already immortal in some fundamental way, but we just keep changing in form.

“The slow and creeping caterpillar-worm of today passes in a few days to
a torpid figure and a state resembling death; and in the next change
comes forth in all the miniature magnificence of life, a splendid
butterfly….No resemblance of the former creature remains; everything is
changed; all his powers are new, and life is to him another thing. We
cannot conceive that the consciousness of existence is not the same in
this state of the animal as before; why then must I believe that the
resurrection of the same body is necessary to continue to me the
consciousness of existence hereafter?”

-Thomas Paine, Age of Reason



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09 Dec 2010, 7:36 pm

Jacoby wrote:
I'd get pretty bored after a few thousand years.


No, I doubt you or anyone would. The mind doesn't track the years gone by quite like that, at least mine doesn't. Memories are event based, after this before that, and not on a timestamp basis per se. Boredom is a temporary state often caused by inactivity, not by the amount of time one has been alive.