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theexternvoid
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09 Dec 2010, 1:20 pm

Is it possible for an aspie to be good with sarcasm?

I know someone who thinks he's an aspie, seems to fit it fairly well, but he's great with sarcasm. It's his primary form of humor. Though his mom has the same sarcasm trait and I wonder if an aspie can master sarcasm naturally by being raised by a very sarcastic mom.



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09 Dec 2010, 1:23 pm

I can be very sarcastic. But I wasn't always. At some point I learned that people respond to well sarcasm. But as an aspie, I can easily misread a situation and use sarcasm inappropriately.


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09 Dec 2010, 1:24 pm

That's pretty much how I express humor, say the opposite of what is logical in my mind, or something beyond obvious in a hyperbole. Not sure, probably differs for everyone.



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09 Dec 2010, 1:25 pm

theexternvoid wrote:
Is it possible for an aspie to be good with sarcasm?

I know someone who thinks he's an aspie, seems to fit it fairly well, but he's great with sarcasm. It's his primary form of humor. Though his mom has the same sarcasm trait and I wonder if an aspie can master sarcasm naturally by being raised by a very sarcastic mom.

I understand it and can be good at it. I like irony better. Sarcasm can get so cliche if overused.



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09 Dec 2010, 3:12 pm

I am sarcastic to get my point across or to make a point. I am sometimes sarcastic and don't even know it. I do have humor. I also say things like "great" or "can this get any worse?"


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09 Dec 2010, 5:30 pm

I am very sarcastic. Always have been. However I can hardly tell when other people are using sarcasm. I know what's going on in my own mind, but cannot read other people and there intentions - irony / sarcasm in others is a foreign language to me. Makes me appear very gullible. xD



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09 Dec 2010, 6:01 pm

Me too, I can be extremely sarcastic. I'm one of five members of the Ironic People's Party - not kidding :) Dunno if I'm an aspie, though. I'm officially spd.



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09 Dec 2010, 7:14 pm

I have trouble understanding it from time to time, but I'm certainly not as clueless as one would assume I would be/"should" be as a person with AS. Appreciating it is what I'm deficient at. That said, I personally consider myself infinitely better at doling out the "lulz" via my cynical and deadpan stylings, which I'll admit, my flat, monotone voice makes me well suited for (Having the right voice obviously means nothing if you just can't "do" sarcasm, though.).



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09 Dec 2010, 9:40 pm

sarcasm and irony are very good tools to use when navigating around social situations. I have a tendency to hide behind general dry wit when meeting new people. granted i sometimes don't 'get' extremely dry people but i don't mind because their sole intention usually is to confuse those that are not 'in' on the joke

saying that i once had to literally teach sarcasm to my aspie friend at school. i found it hard to believe that someone would need it explaining. (He still takes me far too literally now!)



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09 Dec 2010, 10:24 pm

wavefreak58 wrote:
I can be very sarcastic. But I wasn't always. At some point I learned that people respond to well sarcasm. But as an aspie, I can easily misread a situation and use sarcasm inappropriately.


I can understand that. For me, though, in general, it's less that I misread a situation and more that I just don't know when to strike because I don't know when the proverbial ore is hot, as opposed to "normal" individuals, who seem so adept in their knowledge of what way they should speak, when in a conversation. The best way I can explain it is that I know what much of socialization entails, the different ways people express themselves while talking and why, and I'm even clever with regards to one particular facet of socialization, which gives me an "On paper" knowledge of it, but I still have a difficult time regardless with the actual execution of the process. Due to that lack of knowledge, I worry about how I'll appear, if I'll sound forced/rigid (which is a valid concern. I don't particularly enjoy the experience of having my hair cut, due more to the awkwardness of it all and due less to the actual hair cutting.) and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Therefore, I should have clarified earlier in saying that I can be funny, but more around people I know who can accept my quirks. While that acceptance doesn't make me good at socializing, regardless, (I don't enjoy eye contact. At all.), it does make me better, because it takes some weight off of my shoulders.



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09 Dec 2010, 10:44 pm

I've always been very sarcastic and never had a problem picking up on others using it.


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09 Dec 2010, 10:48 pm

I can be sarcastic but don't usually get other people when they use it. They don't get my sarcasm either.


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10 Dec 2010, 1:09 am

Sarcasm heavy - that and puns my main humor. The sarcasm runs in the family. Even with family, it is known to misfire .



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10 Dec 2010, 1:31 am

I learned sarcasm by imitating friends and television characters. I'm quite good at it and it's one of my primary forms of humor. It's rather easy to fake the overly loud, exaggerated tone that you find in sarcasm, so I expect a lot of AS people will have picked it up. When you're being sarcastic, you're by definition faking seriousness, so in theory, it should be no more difficult to execute for an aspie than an NT.

Understanding sarcasm, on the other hand, may be harder. I hated it when I was a kid, because it was confusing that people said things that they didn't mean on purpose. It took a while before I got the difference between sarcasm and lying. If I know a person well, I can always pick up sarcasm, because I know more or less what their actual thoughts are likely to be, and I've probably heard their sarcastic tone before, and I remember it. If it's people I don't know so well, I try to read the tone of voice, based on what other people do, but people's mannerisms can differ, so I occasionally miss. I try to keep my mouth shut and keep listening because the comments other people make will often reveal whether it was sarcasm or real. Listening is a great skill to develop for anyone wanting to do better socially, aspie or otherwise, IMHO.



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10 Dec 2010, 1:36 am

Well, people never get the sarcasm I'm using, and I often don't get theirs.