Do you guys like the whole "i think x is an aspie"

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do you?

The poll is pretty unanimous so far

i thought you guys would hate it. these "i think x is an aspie" question is extremely stupid too

I think it depends on the intent of the question. Someone being a sarcastic jerk and saying, "S/he must have Aspergers," is rather uncalled for. So is talking about it behind their back but that's mostly because I abhor rumors and smacktalk, though.

On the other hand, someone thinking X has Aspergers could just be ignorant and/or genuinely curious. Maybe they're trying to figure out why people do certain things; I believe such a question could ease the mind a bit since it might make people understand people with Aspergers better. Personally, I'd rather be labeled as someone with Aspergers than be treated as if I'm mentally ret*d considering how I was treated at one school that had a lot of kids with learning disabilities, some worse than others.

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The fixation on a label to me in my own life seems to be wasteful. The label to me is not a way to construct methods of finding more people to relate to and socialize with. The label is a means for accommodation, help and outreach. I do not see the label in my own behavior most of the time and when I do I find it irritates me such as when someone says that's because of my autism. An organic mind that has no need for these concepts does not need self-acceptance for it but should others entice non-acceptance by enforcing labeling as a means to justify something that must be separated from myself when I am otherwise happy I find it disturbing.

This topic is about projecting a label into the reality around others. In so in doing you are seeking friendships of those with similarities, ways to relate with others and or to further enforce the social mechanisms of labeling. Further this topic I could write several pages about but I currently lack an interest.

So you feel individuals with cognitive disabilities are treated poorly and you have experienced the same? Or are you saying in meaning to be treated as if you do not know any better is an insult? You have certain emotions within context to this subject. The problem is people with Asperger's Syndrome (now part of ASD's) are diverse and the generalities are simply to general. There is no real clone personality per say to project to the public. However to say people with A.S are jerks is incorrect but to say some are is correct. To assume because someone is a jerk that means they have A.S is incorrect.

I'm talking from the outsider's perspective. I have Aspergers and as long as it doesn't affect the way they treat me, I don't care. But yes, I've been to a school where I was treated like a toddler (learning about Optimistic Olly and Pessimistic Pete at the age of 13 was a huge slap in the face) and I find that far more insulting than silent judgment.

I don't mean to make generalizations that _all_ people on the spectrum are like that, but rather to understand there are some things about Aspergers that make life difficult and they're not doing it to be obnoxious. For example, I talk loudly but I don't do it to annoy people; I have a hard time controlling my loudness, and my mom being partially deaf doesn't help much.

Loud voices to close over stimulates me. I have a friend that is deaf and he knows when I need a break from him. I start spinning to get away sometimes, mind shuts down to like fog other times, rock and he has learned this behavior of mine. Yes positive behavioral therapy (reenforcement) can be really absurd at times for higher functioning people. It can also lie to someone. I told a center I was at please stop doing that to me it is kind of insulting. Also I tell professionals I want to know what is on your mind don't hide it to be nice or agree to agree. I want the facts so I can progress in the real-world in my job. Though my circumstances are unique as my customized employment has been to deal with the public.

Ugh, I hate that s**t so much. It's even worse when people pass off their speculations as fact.

Potty mouth!

stupid and a waste of forum space.

I hate those questions. I wish people would stop asking them, especially when it's about fictional characters.

Well, I don't take it very seriously, the wondering that is. And I flat out don't care when it's real people, only if it's a fictional character on some show NTs may have seen. But for me it's been useful to keep a mental list of media characters who have some of our traits, it's useful as a shortcut when doing presentations. When you have 40m to 1h to explain AS to a varied group of people who barely know what autism is having something you can point to is so nice. Something that isn't Rainman, which seems to be the default image people have.

Yeah, pointing to a media character who displays traits often associated with AS is crude, but it also cuts down on a lot of basic explaining. So you can take the time to go 'well except for this and this and this way in which (s)he's not like someone with AS, and this this and this can vary'. When you only have 1 hour you need to make every minute count and you need to connect with the audience somehow fast (which can be hard as an Aspie) and give them at least a basic picture of what to expect. Preferably one that won't have them treating us as though we're very slow 6 year olds who love to count cards and practically need help going to the bathroom on their own.

The problem with them is that people always ask it because the characters are ones they like or identify with. Everyone is going to have a different set of heros. I personally like antagonists, evil geniuses, black guys in purple pimp suits, and Charlie Sheen. Do I feel like validating my identification with these characters by trying to aspi-tize them? Maybe...but do I go as far as to debate it? No.

QFT.

Where is the option for "I am indifferent; that type of speculation is not something I care to engage in, but if others wish to, it won't ruin my day"?