House Republicans Voted to Defund "Net Neutrality"

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18 Feb 2011, 1:28 pm

It really is defunding an attempt to censor the internet, and it looks like Republicans got the message.

FCC wants to shove "net neutrality" into place, House Republicans say, fine good luck trying to do it without any money.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/house-pa ... r-20110217



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18 Feb 2011, 1:58 pm

how about we just end the FCC all together?



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18 Feb 2011, 2:01 pm

I think if the FCC keeps it up they might end up being completely defunded.

Now granted the Dems in the Senate and Obama won't go along with it, but now we know which side is really for freedom and which side isn't.



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18 Feb 2011, 5:24 pm

actually Al Franken (D- Mn) started the fight FOR net neutrality.


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18 Feb 2011, 6:18 pm

jojobean wrote:
actually Al Franken (D- Mn) started the fight FOR net neutrality.


I don't care who started it, internet censorship of political views is plain wrong.



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18 Feb 2011, 8:15 pm

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The order aims to bar broadband providers from discriminating against Internet content, services, or applications.

So, how exactly is that censoring the internet? Me no get it.



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18 Feb 2011, 8:18 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
jojobean wrote:
actually Al Franken (D- Mn) started the fight FOR net neutrality.


I don't care who started it, internet censorship of political views is plain wrong.


you got it backwards, net neutrality is anti-censorship


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18 Feb 2011, 8:19 pm

I just can't believe the way some of this stuff gets twisted around. Sheesh.



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18 Feb 2011, 10:37 pm

jojobean wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
jojobean wrote:
actually Al Franken (D- Mn) started the fight FOR net neutrality.


I don't care who started it, internet censorship of political views is plain wrong.


you got it backwards, net neutrality is anti-censorship



No, it is censorship though Dems try to claim it is opening the internet for everyone.



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18 Feb 2011, 10:59 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
jojobean wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
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actually Al Franken (D- Mn) started the fight FOR net neutrality.


I don't care who started it, internet censorship of political views is plain wrong.


you got it backwards, net neutrality is anti-censorship



No, it is censorship though Dems try to claim it is opening the internet for everyone.


No, you are spinning for your own ideology. Defeating net-neutrality will allow big corporations to divvy up and own the internet and THEN that is when your censorship begins when they limit service to sites they don't like or to competitors.

http://www.savetheinternet.com/net-neutrality-101


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18 Feb 2011, 11:03 pm

nope, it started with google wanting to control who saw what on the internet based on their affilates, and then google got a government security clearance. Now what is google doing with a government security clearance and trying to decide who sees what??? Sounds fishy to me. It also sounded fishy to Al Franken who then started trhe Net Neutrality movement to stop google and other agencies from doing this. Meanwhile those on the right have been spinning a disinformation campain about net neutrality to those not well informed on the issue.


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19 Feb 2011, 12:15 am

@ Zara and jojobean

No, you are a both wrong because Google supports the Democrats "net neutrality."

From the leftist Huffington Post
As a songwriter I have a problem wrapping my mind around the concept that the FCC is going out of the censorship business and into the protection of free speech.

Wasn't it the FCC that banned Billy Holiday's wonderful recording of "Love for Sale" and Cole Porter's "I Get a Kick Out of You?"

Wasn't it the FCC that agreed with Vice President Spiro Agnew that the recording industry was promoting 'drug culture' with songs like "Puff the Magic Dragon" and "A Little Help From My Friends?"

Isn't it the FCC that gave us Janet Jackson's 'Nipple Gate' and drove Howard Stern off the air and onto satellite radio? Didn't they ban Ice-T for Cop Killer? Fine Bono for cursing at an awards show?

I could go on, but I hope this short list demonstrates the controversial history of the FCC's role in censoring free expression in music.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rick-carn ... 09392.html

I would debate what free expression in music is but the guy's point is valid.

http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2010/05 ... speech.ars

Net neutrality is from the people that brought you the "fairness doctrine" which is also known as the censorship doctrine.



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19 Feb 2011, 1:57 am

The FCC may not be perfect, but I'd rather have something that's generally accountable to the people rather than a bunch of corporations completely taking over internet access that are accountable to only their shareholders. Regulation of the internet in some form is probably inevitable, either the government will have to or private corporations will do so for their interests.

I'm not even sure if what you posted there even proved anything. So the FCC doesn't like people using curse words or showing bare breasts on public airwaves?(not that I have any issue with such) What are they going do with the net? Ban porn? Good luck with that. And I thought you conservative folk were against people using dirty language, sex and nudity on public airwaves since you're all so always concerned about the children...
The FCC usually only acts that way when people irrationally complain about something(like "nipplegate"). It wasn't always the best course of action but the agency was being accountable to the people.

Anyway, censorship is not the goal of net neutrality. It's to keep ISPs from abusing their control of internet access to favor certain groups over others.


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19 Feb 2011, 1:59 pm

@ Zara

Sorry but the far-left which runs the DNC has made it quite clear that it is really intended to censor people they don't agree with.



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19 Feb 2011, 4:21 pm

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@ Zara

Sorry but the far-left which runs the DNC has made it quite clear that it is really intended to censor people they don't agree with.


Sounds like you're confusing Net Neutrailty with the Fairness Doctrine; which are far from being alike.

When has the DNC stated that it intends to use Net Neutrality to censor sites?


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19 Feb 2011, 5:25 pm

Zara wrote:
The FCC may not be perfect, but I'd rather have something that's generally accountable to the people rather than a bunch of corporations completely taking over internet access that are accountable to only their shareholders. Regulation of the internet in some form is probably inevitable, either the government will have to or private corporations will do so for their interests.

I'm not even sure if what you posted there even proved anything. So the FCC doesn't like people using curse words or showing bare breasts on public airwaves?(not that I have any issue with such) What are they going do with the net? Ban porn? Good luck with that. And I thought you conservative folk were against people using dirty language, sex and nudity on public airwaves since you're all so always concerned about the children...
The FCC usually only acts that way when people irrationally complain about something(like "nipplegate"). It wasn't always the best course of action but the agency was being accountable to the people.

Anyway, censorship is not the goal of net neutrality. It's to keep ISPs from abusing their control of internet access to favor certain groups over others.


the solution to this is easy, end the government sanctioned ISP monopolies and allow true competition. The consumer obviously wants unrestricted and unregulated internet so the company providing that would obviously win out in the free market. Monopolies are the real issue and the biggest of them all is the federal government. How does a problem created by government regulations get solved with more government regulations? The federal government has no authority to regulate internet in the first place, show me where in constitution that this power is granted. Further more, what makes you think giving the FCC will work in your best interest if given more power and not their corporate overlords to further stifle competition and innovation? Not to mention government's ulterior motives of ever increasing it's power and control over it's populace, it's not a big leap for the FCC to start regulating content.