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I believe in God and that we may exist after we die, I have been to many different churches in the past, and I have always found that I do not believe in everything they teach because some of there teachings do not agree with the bible or are just not logical, I also do not like being with lots of other people.
I just wanted to know what other aspies thought about religion and going to church.
Simon.

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I try to practice Christian values without claiming to be Christian which is better than the other way around. I’m not concerned with things like heaven or hell. I think what happens to us before we are born and after we die is up to god and what happens to us in between is up to us. I don't believe that a creator god exists outside of us, I believe that there was a co-arising of god and the universe. I do believe in a creator god that exists inside of us, creating this reality moment to moment, that man and god are not separate, that man and god are one. As to the metaphysical nature of that reality, I tend to believe as the Buddhists believe, but when asked, "are you Buddhist?" I say, "I wouldn't go that far." (A little Zen humor there)

"We" do indeed continue to exisit after death, but "I" do not. (I understand that pronoun reversal is common for some aspies. I don't do that often, but I have been known to freely switch between refering to myself in both singular and plural. Makes perferct sense to me. "I am you and you are me and we are all together."

Currently, the closest way to describe my faith or lack thereof is 'earth-venerating atheist/humanist.' I have a moral code, and somehow I feel that needing to believe in a happy afterlife--or not--to give myself incentive is a bit self-defeating--are you truly being a good person if you're only doing it to get to Heaven or the Elysium Fields or what-have-you? And then I catch flak if I let people know I'm not exactly a strict churchgoer and they call ME the one with a shaky moral code 'cause I don't necessarily believe in a god and wouldn't worship any monotheistic god even if I did, because he strikes me as more than a little selfish and pushy, and I don't particularly want to deal with religions that are fundementally based in arrogance and proselytizing from the start. (The Judeo-Christian-Islamic god always struck me as a little toddler wailing 'But I'm the only REAL god! All the others are IMPOSTERS! Anyone who won't worship ME is gonna have to die! Please. Give me a good tolerant polytheistic god that knows how to bloody well share any day.)

I am not entirely fond of organized religion. I know that good things can result, like the good work some churches do, but most of what I see in religions' influence on history is damn short on 'love thy neighbor' and pretty heavy on 'smite the unbelievers/heretics/weirdoes/people who don't think like we do.' That goes for most of the really organized ones, the ones that were pretty much compulsory in the community, not the ones like 'toss in a stick of incense every once in a while and try not to blaspheme' or whatever. Churches would be the biggest offenders, in my view. And yes, I know that they're all not like that, and a lot of them are great pillars of the community and help people who need to have faith in something or what-have-you. I just think the ones that aren't are a big nasty social problem. Fundementalists, I am looking at YOU. Yes, YOU, you damn people who keep trying to say that America is a Christian country. No, it damn well was not; it was founded in large part by Deists, who are NOT the same thing. Yes, YOU, you 'but marriage is entirely religious so gay people legally needs to be banned even though marriage gives people special benefits' people. Religion just seems to make people so unreasonable.

Please bear in mind that I'm not trying to insult anyone--jeez, I can certainly see how someone who's devout might get angry; certainly my parents would be--but...that's how I feel about the whole god/religion buisness. ...Wow, that's a lot of run-on sentences. Sorry if I'm a bit incoherent and rambling, but it's nearly midnight here and I really need to go to sleep and this really is how I think.

Many Aspies are Atheists or Agnostics. The bible is an intersting and sometimes helpfull book, but it is not the word of god. The book of Genisis was largely plagerized from the Babalonians and the Epic of Gilgamesh. Much of the bible is scientifically impossible and non-sensica. Much of the "morality" is actually quite immoral by todays standards. I see little use for the bible other than cultural refrence.

Yes, that really doesn't help with with mainstream Christianity, and many other religions which are essentially congregational. Little worse being in the middle of a crowd that are being swept along, when you're not. (Also applies to me at rock concerts and football games, I discover)



Raised to go to church. left it it as its inconsistencies struck me, returned as I realised that had been a poor example of Christianity but, after many years trying to seriously practice it, realised the whole of Christianity contains fatal flaws.

I'm now dealing with the implications of existential atheism.

Religion may, or may once have, functioned as a necessary myth for communities.
It's both a social lubricant and glue where a good majority sign up, consciously or by default, broadly to one particular world view. It gives an automatic insight into what should be done, and how other people are likely to be thinking.

One the possibilities multiply, or different myth communities come into regular contact, confusion stress and conflict is likely to be the result.

I have more of an Agnostic Deism.

Agnostic: Don't know if God exists.

Deism: God exists, created the universe, and then didn't interphere.

Agnostic Deism: I don't know but I think god created the universe and didn't interphere.


I've been part of many religions and spiritualities. I have been to perhaps dozens of churches. But my conclusions are those above. After much study, and much thought on the matters surrounding 'God' and the 'Universe', those conclusions are the ones that work for me.

But to be fair, how does anyone actually know for sure if God exists?

I'm a Christian (of the Foursquare denomination if you want to know), and I do believe what the Bible says is true and what Jesus said about Himself.

My life has been changed in an extremely positive way that I couldn't have done by myself, or by manly methods. Anyone can call me a crazy lunatic, but when I experience God in this way for myself and when I see all the archaelogical, spiritual, physical, and prophetical truth about the Bible, I can 'see' for myself that God exists. To tell the truth, I haven't seen God, touched God, smelled God, or even worked out an extreme equation that's literally Einsteinian to figure it out that somehow says that God exists. I believe that God has His own way of showing Himself to people. My belief and assurance that God exists doesn't rest solely in facts, but also by faith. I can't exactly say how big or how incredibly powerful God is or where He comes from, but I am only a human, and my mind is way too small to comprehend God fully. I'm not as intellectual as many people are, but I do know that God does exist because of the imprint he has left on my life through these last few years.

I'm a Christian (of the Foursquare denomination if you want to know), and I do believe what the Bible says is true and what Jesus said about Himself.

My life has been changed in an extremely positive way that I couldn't have done by myself, or by manly methods. Anyone can call me a crazy lunatic, but when I experience God in this way for myself and when I see all the archaelogical, spiritual, physical, and prophetical truth about the Bible, I can 'see' for myself that God exists. To tell the truth, I haven't seen God, touched God, smelled God, or even worked out an extreme equation that's literally Einsteinian to figure it out that somehow says that God exists. I believe that God has His own way of showing Himself to people. My belief and assurance that God exists doesn't rest solely in facts, but also by faith. I can't exactly say how big or how incredibly powerful God is or where He comes from, but I am only a human, and my mind is way too small to comprehend God fully. I'm not as intellectual as many people are, but I do know that God does exist because of the imprint he has left on my life through these last few years.

One of these religious texts I have around here says, I'm paprphrasing broadly, "Do the right thing for the sake of doing the right thing, not for the sake of some reward." The existence of god is not the topic worthy of discussion, but rather the nature of that existence. At the very least, we know for certain that god exists as a concept, a mental construct in the minds of human beings, thus influencing their behavior.

Not to be mean or anything, but don't you think this forum should go into the "Politics, Philosophy, and Religion" forums.

I'm a Christain too. I'm glad you took the time to make this thread. That took guts.

I believe that god is actually the life force of the planet. There is no diety other than ourselves. We are god and god is us. Depend on yourself instead of a god that isn't there. You can do more than a deity can do for you.

Aspiegirl2
Very well put. I have similiar belief. I know by following the teachings of god, we will only make our lives better. God wants us to be happy.

I'm a pagan, which actually convers a wide variety of ideas and beliefs, so more plainly, i'm an earth worpshipper with leanings towards celtic beliefs. I also believe in reincarnation and even remember a few of my past lives.

I believe everyone should believe what they want, though i've never understood why people tell other people what to believe and i've never understood the whole converstion thing, most pagans are big at converstion.

But i do think that earth worshippers have one thing right - we live on this planet and without her we would not exsist. That makes her very powerful and very precious....so many people don't seem to grasp that.

Also my diety, being the earth itself, is eminantly touchable and totally real!