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08 Apr 2011, 12:43 pm

Who here uses a Mac? What do you like about it? Why? I have a MacBook Pro, which I bought off ebay a couple of months ago. Please don't judge me. I quite like it, though it has its downsides - in particular the expense of hardware and the difficulty of installing GNU/Linux on it, though the latter is less of a problem given Mac OS X's status as a UNIX operating system and the compatibility of much software. I'm still no fanboy though and my desktop is a PC, with an OpenSuse/Windows 7 dual boot configuration.

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08 Apr 2011, 2:00 pm

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the difficulty of installing GNU/Linux on it,

Might depend on the distro, but GNU/Linux ran fine on my old Macbook. OpenSUSE never liked it much, though, so maybe that is your problem.

I used to have a Mac. It was nice; everything always worked, you didn't have to mess around with it, it was stable, secure, reasonably good with memory management, etc. Once I switched over to using GNU/Linux most of the time, though, there wasn't any particular reason to have a Mac at all, since the only reason one would want a Mac is to run OS X.

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09 Apr 2011, 12:41 am

I only used a Mac (OS X) 2 or 3 times at work in uni a few years back. what architecture is the macbook that u got, ppc or x68?
Heres a few disros around for the ppc arch I hear fedora is good I can't remember if is still going yellow dog but thats good the ppc. Also look into hackintosh & etc. cos it is possible to install OS X on a x68 pc

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09 Apr 2011, 1:30 am

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the only reason one would want a Mac is to run OS X.

Well, it used to be: these days, the reason is that it's the only platform from which one can make code for iPads.

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09 Apr 2011, 3:14 am

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the only reason one would want a Mac is to run OS X.

Well, it used to be: these days, the reason is that it's the only platform from which one can make code for iPads.

First off I haven't had my hands on one to know. Tho I looked that officially the ipad might support Java without the need for iOS jail breaking, but its still in pipeline.

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09 Apr 2011, 9:29 am

cdfox7 wrote:

I only used a Mac (OS X) 2 or 3 times at work in uni a few years back. what architecture is the macbook that u got, ppc or x68?

Macbooks and Macbook Pros are x86 Intel.

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Heres a few disros around for the ppc arch I hear fedora is good I can't remember if is still going yellow dog but thats good the ppc.

Yellow Dog has been pretty much defunct for several years now, and last I heard the PPC port of Fedora was completely broken. Debian is really the only viable option left for PowerPC Linux (OpenSUSE in theory offers it as well, but very few PPC Macs have the specs to handle SUSE's bloat).

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09 Apr 2011, 12:17 pm

cdfox7 wrote:

First off I haven't had my hands on one to know. Tho I looked that officially the ipad might support Java without the need for iOS jail breaking, but its still in pipeline.

I get a feeling that the iPad so long as jobs lives will never do Java. Java (The JVM) is very demanding and apple has something of a performance/light weight edge right now on all their applications against their competitors portfolio of apps.

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12 Apr 2011, 12:42 am

macs are great, i love mine. such a wonderful UI of course. i just bought an i3 - few headaches (if any) involved. while a PC is certainly the right choice for some, i wouldn't wanna do what i do with one of those machines

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12 Apr 2011, 2:51 pm

I only have 2 Apple Computers
Apple II/GS
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Apple SE/30
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I am lazy I didn't want to go into the garage to take pic I may go into there later to do pics.

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12 Apr 2011, 8:23 pm

In principle running Java should not be that much more demanding than running Javascript. The relatively poor structure of javascript actually means that it takes more bookkeeping effort to garbage collect. Yet I don't see Apple ditching Javascript any time soon. In fact ARM has specific hardware acceleration for Java that could make it a lot faster, so all this performance/light weight are just excuses.

The same is also true for Flash. ActionScript is not that different to Javascript. Apple likes to fool people about flash = slowness. But the fact is most of the time Flash is just the container for video. If the same videos are playing, be it through Flash or html5, it'll take the same CPU/GPU time! It seem faster now just because fewer ads use html5 video.

Of course, vulnerability is another matter. Both Flash and Java are particularly bad recently.

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13 Apr 2011, 7:48 am

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Also its more of political & legal excuse from Apple for not official supporting Flash & Java.

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22 Apr 2011, 5:44 pm

I have used macs and feel the most comfortable with them. It seems like its got soul. It tries to do operations even though I know it will eventually stall out. When I think about how much I pushed my LC II and it only had 8 meg Ram.

LC II
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Imac Intel 2.16 GHz

The Imac went 2 years before the Hard drive died. Thank goodness I had an external which I could save things too. The DVD drive is junk too but I knew that and now mainly use an external. I work with photoshop, audio, video and some web.

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24 Apr 2011, 12:53 am

I am a big fan of Macs. Not only is the Mac OS more stable than Windows and even (in my experience) Linux, but the hardware lasts longer. I have an HP laptop that I've owned for less than a year, and the screen is already starting to wear out. Buying a Mac is an investment, but it's well worth it if you're a real heavy computer user.

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24 Apr 2011, 12:55 am

TOGGI3 wrote:

cdfox7 wrote:

First off I haven't had my hands on one to know. Tho I looked that officially the ipad might support Java without the need for iOS jail breaking, but its still in pipeline.

There are also IP issues what with Oracle suing everyone for using Java.

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24 Apr 2011, 4:22 am

At least Sun used to care about Java as a language. Oracle care about it as a source of income.

It all makes me care about it less. I spend my working life herding vast stacks of Java that are just there to make Oracle databases look like a good thing. And, from my experience, that's a path to destruction.

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24 Apr 2011, 8:46 am

The issue with google is that they did not use Java because it required licensing the Vm but created their own syste heavily based on Java...

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