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20 Apr 2011, 4:08 pm

We are all born with a sin nature, but no one is born committing a sin. We're all born such that we are lying and stealing by the age of three. But later, many of us learn to curb those impulses significantly. That covers sin nature.

People can, of course, be born with a neurological impediment – it happens all the time. And they can surely be born with an impediment that, as it happens, can serve to present its possessor with a specific choice later in life: that between the homosexual and heterosexual mindsets and lifestyles. The neurological defect is, of course, not sin. Neither does it cause sin.
Rather, it serves to present such individuals with a decision as to whether they wish to give into their predilection, or to choose to resist it. One of those two options is forbidden by God, according to Romans 1:26.

And that is the hard-to-see way in which homosexuality and sin are connected.

(The easy-to-see way is when a person “turns gay” after a lifetime of genuine heterosexual disposition.)

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20 Apr 2011, 4:15 pm

Sex isn't a predilection. It's a human need.

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20 Apr 2011, 4:27 pm

Ragtime wrote:

Going a little off the tangent here: yes pretty much everyone is born in "sin", now that many of us learn to curb those impulses, is something that I doubt, I mean, supposedly we should, but in reality, that doesn't seem to happen much, either they don't care, or one of the other, justify their behaviour. (Now, this isn't about homosexuality though, but the "sins" in general)

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People can, of course, be born with a neurological impediment – it happens all the time. And they can surely be born with an impediment that, as it happens, can serve to present its possessor with a specific choice later in life: that between the homosexual and heterosexual mindsets and lifestyles. The neurological defect is, of course, not sin. Neither does it cause sin.

Are you saying that homosexuality is a neurological impediment?

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Rather, it serves to present such individuals with a decision as to whether they wish to give into their predilection, or to choose to resist it. One of those two options is forbidden by God, according to Romans 1:26.

And that is the hard-to-see way in which homosexuality and sin are connected.

well, correctly it would be "sexuality and sin are connected" not just homosexuality, funny how special focus on homosexuality there is, from conservative christians, while, apparantely, ignoring other aspects of sexuality that are in the Bible, and often, ignoring them in practice.

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(The easy-to-see way is when a person “turns gay” after a lifetime of genuine heterosexual disposition.)

I don't understand what you mean here.

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20 Apr 2011, 4:31 pm

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Love is love. Get off your high horse and leave people who don't care about this BS alone

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20 Apr 2011, 4:36 pm

Ragtime wrote:

We are all born with a sin nature,

Some, apparently, have such a sinful predisposition that they feel it necessary to direct harm, ridicule, and violence towards two consenting and loving individuals. People sinful enough to direct such harm are really pathological.

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20 Apr 2011, 4:37 pm

I don't get the OP. Do you mean homosexuality = good, or homosexuality = bad?

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20 Apr 2011, 4:38 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:

I don't get the OP. Do you mean homosexuality = good, or homosexuality = bad?

He's suggesting that it is a neurological impediment that people should resist so that they can continue pleasing his God

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20 Apr 2011, 4:41 pm

Hmnn, that God guy sounds like a dick for giving people neurological impediments that makes it harder for some people to worship him.

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20 Apr 2011, 4:46 pm

The OP is suggesting, while most people are born heterosexual, some are born with the potential to be gay, so they have to choose heterosexuality over homosexuality. The whole thing is a pretty laughable attempt to rectify Arminianism with biological predispositions with Christofascistic bigotry.

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20 Apr 2011, 4:48 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:

I don't get the OP. Do you mean homosexuality = good, or homosexuality = bad?

1: The title "Homosexuality decoded" - indicates a position against homosexuality.

2: The belief that being homosexual is ok, but homosexual acts are not, thus for the homosexual: "celibacy = good", "sexually active = bad".

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20 Apr 2011, 4:50 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:

Hmnn, that God guy sounds like a dick for giving people neurological impediments that makes it harder for people to worship him.

He likes to give certain people more of a challenge for omniscient s**ts and giggles. Sort of like how Dinosaur bones & the Village People are just there to test peoples faith. Gay people were put back on the Earth and given a second chance at redemption for sins in their past life (I dunno, like being a Muslim, or voting Democrat, or something) by having 'sinful' urges that they must ignore to be allowed into the Glorious Kingdom of Heaven™ (pop. 600, all Mormons)
Okay, I just made all that up.

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20 Apr 2011, 4:51 pm

Vigilans wrote:

He's suggesting that it is a neurological impediment that people should resist so that they can continue pleasing his God

Aspies, as a neurological impediment, should resist to act aspergian to please God. It is a sin!

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20 Apr 2011, 4:58 pm

I like the idea that gay people are only doing it to annoy god. "Ooh, my ass hurts, but did you see the look on his enraged omnipotent face?". :lol:
But seriously, the only sin regarding gay people is commited by those who persecute them for doing nothing more than seeking happiness.

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20 Apr 2011, 5:00 pm

Hey Ragtime- this ones for you, brah!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO43p2Wqc08

I know you just won't be able to tear your eyes away from this