US Independence Day

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6VAlEXKI40[/youtube]

Thoughts?

might geberate a though if it were not pretty much not practical for me to try to see it.

Brief summary?

WTF? It worked just fine earlier. Grr

Forget it...

Now it's deleted, the american government is censoring the truth.

Any chance you care to offer a link or brief summary ... woulda been an interesting thread from an outsider of the US.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a_gmCG_1JU[/youtube]

Here is a working version of the video I found.

A lot of people will backlash against this video because they equate Independence Day with Memorial Day. They will most likely say that videos like this take away from our troops commitment & courage when Independence Day celebrates the anniversary our forefathers & foremothers helped discuss, create, sign, and send to King Georgie the declaration of independence.

We have come a long way from our founding parents in rights for individuals. We fought vigorously and still continue to fight vigorously for equal protection and consideration for all our citizens. The recent legislation by the extreme right against the reproductive rights of women, cutting planned parenthood, and attempting to redefine rape. It is backward. We should we ashamed.

This country's populance still largely believes this country was founded to be a Christian country. They are largely unaware that the ideals we had were from the Enlightenment and philosophers who were often punished for their ideas by the "God chosen" Kings of Europe. Did you know our country's original motto was "One Made of Many" before it was "In God we Trust"? People don't care about our true history so long as a lie supports their religion. As a member of the LGBT community, I feel subjected and treated as a second class citizen. I only pay my taxes to the government and country I think wishes I were not here.

I don't celebrate the fourth of July by watching the fireworks or watching parades. I celebrate by reading the declaration of constitution, bill of rights, and the declaration of independence. We would be an even more amazing country if we as a whole could appreciate the message of our founding documentation.

teaearlgreyhot -

Given my connection the video is stuill going to be pretty inaccessible to me.

Is technoteen's summary / response a close to fair representation?

OMG I'm so sad after watching this. In the century the Dec of Ind was thought of, women were still regarded of as property. Yep and I mean legally in localities too ladies! Sometimes it's best to look at where you are and where you want to beL look too close at the past and you see the lies you have been told. The dec of ind did not include women at all. Move Forward and Do Not Look Back!

Edit~ Thanks so much Techn0teen for the video repost!

on the one hand, I appreciate the recommendation for everyone to read the D of I for themselves; too many parrot bits and pieces of it without having read the whole thing (link). However, I think that a large part of the celebration of the 4th of July is to put aside our differences, just for a little while - One nation, indivisible - and just be Americans, together. I know that we're not all equal in real life, every other day of the year, but just for a little while I'd like all of us to try.

MK, so


*I am also a member of the LGBT community, and am right there with you. I'm not sure if I agree or disagree with the movement stated in the video, though. It's not that I don't think they have a point. I just don't think refusing to celebrate a holiday will accomplish much.*

Why post this garbage, We are more pissed than what these women are stating, or is it an empirical statement.
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So the video is just some stereotypical grouchy/humorless old lesbian ranting about old historical injustices and comparing it to the 4th of July?