Thinking about proposing this to my chemistry teacher

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Think this would be called the ionization of an oxoacid/ Nitric Acid which would also make it a monoprotonic acid then take it a step further and do a deprotonization and desynthesis of the whole thing all over again . Could be used for other oxoacids as well. Pretty sure this would also be considered a reaction mechanism of Nitric Acid. This could be wrong.

N+O= NO-
NO+O=NO2-
NO2+O=NO3-
NO3+H=HNO3

HNO3 + OH-= NO3 + H20
Nitric Acid + Hydroxide= Nitrate + Water

or

N+O=NO-
NO+H2O=HNO3

I wish I weren't such a science idiot that I can't say anything intelligent about your formulae but I thought this read "thinking about proposing to my chemistry teacher."

Chemistry is just gibberish to me, but I can say this. Teachers, especially public high school teachers, are often not very educated in the subject that they're teaching. I'm not suggesting that you don't say anything about it. but just be aware you might not get the reaction you want. She may dismiss it because she doesn't understand, or even because she doesn't want to be shown up. Alternatively, she may understand and be impressed. You never know.

Why not show your teacher, even if they don't understand it or if it is wrong it at least shows your teacher you have learned something in their class. It certainly couldn't hurt your grade.

Was this supposed to be a pun?

lol^

once you get through all the jibberish it can be fun very fun.

me too!

This is how I have it memorized. Anything that is a hydrogen with a non-metal such as Hcl, HI, HF, Hbr, it is Hydro+name of element with ic as the suffix. So Hydrochloric acid, Hydroiodic acid, Hydroflouric acid, Hydrobromic acid. Oxoacids, you leave out the hydro. HN03, H2SO4, HBRO3. Nitric Acid, Sulfuric Acid, Bromic Acid. Then their are the carboxylic acids, I haven't figured out the pattern for those yet but they are represented by the formula r-cooh, where are is a monovalent something. Some are propionic acid, acetic acid, benzioc acid, formic, tartaric, perrimelltic acid, benzenehexcarboxylic acid. Hc3h5o2, Hc2h3o2, Hc7h5o2, hc3h5o3. It took me awhile to memorize those. and yeah the chemistry stuff is very hard to memorize.

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I like chemistry so much even my dog is a lab.

I'm trying to turn fleas into gold. Surely you've heard the legend of the golden fleas?

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So did I at first...

I prefer physics, but chemistry isn't bad. That being said, I really don't understand where you're going with all this.

I had no idea I was just messing around I guess.

Oh yeah I was showing how to use a reaction mechanism to get Nitric Acid. But still don't know if it is right.

I'm still waiting until I can take it. I can't take it until I take another class.

and how come you don't like chemistry that much?

First, don't think of it in half-molecules, use O instead of O2, I've only seen that in Inorganic, so it's fairly uncommon (O is also a highly reactive species seen in plasma physics). Next, only use a - symbol when denoting a charge, not that it continues on in the next line (the fact there's a next line's a pretty good indication there's a next line ) :

N2 + O2 -> 2NO
2NO + O2 -> 2NO2
2NO2 + O2 -> 2NO3
2NO3 + H2 -> 2HNO3

Look up the heat of reactions for each step. For example, for A + B -> C, deltaH = -12 J/mole, and if your case is C -> A + B, deltaH is then +12 J/mole.

If you see a very large negative heat of reaction in comparison to the others, this means a great deal of energy is required for the reaction to progress, and is therefore not likely to progress that way without a catalyst.