the lord of the rings

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hey now this is diffently my favourte thing in the universe
I am well one of the biggest tolkienites in my world anyway
but anyhoo what'd think about the lotr ,the movies ,the book and the other part of tolkiens world and middle-earth. come on make like it's the green dragon.

I generally loved the Peter Jackson movies, thought the 70s rotoscope jobby was OKish, and the 70s cartoon versions of "The Hobbit" and "Return Of The King" were dire.... I know nothing about the books though unfortunately.

What the hobbit cartoon was great it was so funny.

I am a huge fan of Middle-Earth : Tolkien's books are among my favorites and I also love watching the movies and making-of of the movies, of which I collect memorabilia just like for all my favorite movies.

I love LOTR - I have read it repeatedly from end to end, and have The Hobbit, The Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales - the whole Middle Earth series fascinates me. The films while not sticking strictly to the books (10 hours plus including deleted scenes has to be long enough for anyone...) are great, but I haven't seen the cartoon versions. Have enough with extended 4 disc editions of the Peter Jackson trilogy for now...

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I like Lord of the Rings, but I am not a super fan. Its one of the few novels I have actually read. But to actually read it when I don't read fiction that much is quite a feat.

I also like the movies, they are very well done. I still need to buy all the extended editions... oh hours and hours of goodness.

I also have the audio book version of it on CD. That is great as well, I really need to finish listening to it though. I only got about a third of the way into The Two Towers. The reader on the book is great, he uses differient voices for nearly all the characters. And he acts out the conversations a little too, it is my favorite way to experience the story.

Books on tape are great
your right it depends on the reader though
maybe i'll get em'
i don't know

I think LOTR is going to be the stuff of legend... It's already been quoted as a passing joke in several movies, such as Shrek 2, which is a GREAT honor for a movie to be quoted by another bestselling movie...

I have the books up to TFOTR and the movies up to TTT...

True Steve, "Scary Movie" was aweful and the sequal just got worse.

I just wish the LOTR movies had been paced better. The Return of the King film had to made so short compared to the first two films. I mean that by the book part 2 over 4 hours, and it had some of the slowest sections near the end.

Part one in the book ended about where Frodo left the Fellowship.

So part two was the last ten or 20 minutes of Part one in the movies, all of part 2 in the movies, and some 40 minutes or more into part 3 of the movies. Part 2 was given way more time then any of the other books in the films. So while much of Part 2 appeared in the movies, this shortened parts 1 and 3 and much of both was cut out. It is argueable whether they cut too much of one, but I really would have like to have seen a lot more of part 3 as it was so tremendously shortened even though this was where the most stuff happened that it was a little dissapointing.

I think the book part 2 ended around the time Sam followed the orcs taking Frodo toward the Tower of Cirith Ungol.

Part 3 starts with Gandalf escorting Pippen on horseback to Minas Tirith.

I am not saying he should necessarily have made the films longer, but he could have treated them more equally or if unequally, Part 2 shortest as the least happens and the story gets the slowest, then Part 1 a little longer, and part 3 should have been the longest as the most, best, and most exciting stuff happens in it. Part one only left out one major character and a few lesser characters, while part 3 left out 3 or 4 important characters, including one I thought was more important to the story than even Bombadil in the first part, Prince Imrahil, as his presence gives more balance and authority to Gandalf and their balanced command, they also left out the guide through the wild lands, Beregond, and the commander of the southern reinforcements. Excluding Imrahil and Beregond were a bit of a letdown, more so than all the other skipped characters. They also left out a huge chunk of the ending which included a great event where the lessons learned and the maturity developed were put to good use by the Hobbits, but this would not have been necessary if the movies were paced a little better.

I still like them and like them a lot, but it just seems much more was left out of the last and first books and mostly out of the last book, where there was more to lose.

Warning! Spoilers are contained!! ! Not that you haven't seen RotK yet...but I just thought I'd be fair and warn everyone.


I assume we're talking about the movies here. I've read all three books of the trilogy (several times each), The Hobbit and The Silmarillion.

The movies are well made, but I felt they cut out a lot from the third one. The scouring of the Shire (when the Hobbits traveled back to the Shire in the end, only to find that the Evils of Mordor had taken root in their Home) was my favourite part of the books and was a disappointment to be left out of the third movie. I liked some of the things they added in, but Arwen was around too much, IMO.

I was watching some of the book-to-movie adaptation stuff that they did (on the EE), and I'm just going to say this. If you read the literal, day-by-day appendix timeline in RotK, they line all the events up. The last two or so chapters of TTT were put into RotK because it fit within the timeline. Also, when we follow Aragorn, Gandalf and the rest of the Fellowship through TTT and RotK, their story takes up the whole first half of each book. Sam and Frodo take up the second half of TTT, but only the first four chapters of RotK. Because they cut out a few chapters near the end of the second half of RotK while making the movie (for example, the scouring of the Shire), it would make sense from a film maker's point of view to put a few chapters of TTT (featuring Sam, Frodo and Gollum) into RotK instead.

And, I'm sure PJ realised that it wouldn't be a good idea to leave Frodo almost dead at the end of TTT. Way too much suspense would be built for anyone to wait an entire year to see what happened afterwards. With the book, you can read TTT and then start RotK right afterwards (in theory, anyways).

Overall, good movies, better books. Epimonandas, just to let you know, each of the books is made up of two parts. FotR is made up of part one (Bilbo's party preparations to Frodo arriving in Rivendell) and part two (Frodo waking up in Rivendell and being reuinited with Gandalf and Sam to the breaking of the Fellowship). TTT contains part three (Aragorn discovers that Boromir is dead and Merry and Pippin are captured by orcs to Gandalf's meeting with Saruman) and part four (Sam and Frodo's journey starting when they leave the others, continuing into Mordor, meeting up with Gollum and ending with Frodo being "almost dead" and Sam being taken by the Enemy). RotK concludes the story with part five (starting with Pippin and Gandalf's arrival in Gondor and Aragorn's departure to the Paths of the Dead, following them through the siege of Gondor and ending with the Eagles coming) and part six (containing the rest of Sam's journey to find Frodo and their journey through Mordor, the Battle of Pelennor Fields, Aragorn's coronation and wedding, the Elves leaving Middle-earth and the scouring of the Shire, among other things!).

Sorry if I was rambling a bit there. I just thought I'd let you know that.

I love the LOTR. The books and movies are wonderful. I am a real fan of it.

I read LOTR once and I found it really boring because it written in the old language. The movies are OK though.

LOVED the films!

Tried reedin the books, thort they were reelly good, but gave up about halfway throogh 2 Towers. Kept gettin cort up in the Appendixes - i thort Tolken had thort out the backstory reelly well, and thats sumthin i admire, and strive to do with Sons of Earth as well. Im not sure if ill have such a comprehensive timeline in the back of the books thogh, cos that wood reveel to many secrets that are being saved for Final Crusade, the sequel series. Im not gonna speculate on these secrets now, but you WILL be amazed

I've read the series twice and love it. My favorite book, though, is the Silmarillion.