Bad Boys, Bad Boys
if being a pushover is being "nice", I'd rather be an a-hole
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Glue factory not withstanding, I'll relate to everyone here who cares a bit of wisdom a friend gave me years ago: Being nice and being assertive are not mutually exclusive.
What does that mean? It means you stand up for yourself and have boundaries. A few years ago when a friend of mine owed me a large sum of money, I got really angry that he hadn't paid it back. We had an argument, and I demanded he pay me back. Well, he did, and we're still friends to today...in fact, we're best of friends BECAUSE we can get angry at each other. It's healthy.
If you are nice, and that is all you are, you really aren't a complete human being in my opinion. You can be nice, and assertive, and confident. These are possible.
if being a pushover is being "nice", I'd rather be an a-hole
I'd rather be a nice girl that learns from her mistakes. "Pushover" isn't an incurable condition.
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i wonder if we could alternately call "nice girls" something like "naive, trusting girls"?
Black and white thinking?
I can't stand how "Nice" has been morphed into "doormat" when that's not really the case. It's something psychopaths and narcissists I'm sure have twisted into our daily routine of perceptions of what nice people really are.
If you fight back against a bully, does that mean you are not nice anymore?
i wonder if we could alternately call "nice girls" something like "naive, trusting girls"?
Black and white thinking?
I can't stand how "Nice" has been morphed into "doormat" when that's not really the case. It's something psychopaths and narcissists I'm sure have twisted into our daily routine of perceptions of what nice people really are.
If you fight back against a bully, does that mean you are not nice anymore?
yes i do not think "nice girl" is really the best phrase for the researchers to have used, just like "nice guy" is often misused.
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I've known some and met heaps of gangsters at the cannabis club I have attended. The biker site I visit is full of gang members and bad boys
I'm not one of them, but running with them, rubs off a confidence and sense of self, arrogance most of the time.
They are usually physically powerful, and therein lies the attraction. Not always good boyfriend material but prolly good for a romp and a chat about ADHD
Its in our DNA, the "bad boys" would have been the knight or some ither type of protectors that love to fight, The "nice guys" would be the guys the cookers and the doctors and all around the type with out fighting. We need to find this DNA and kill it.
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Now about Machiavellianism, old Nick was a Taurus!! Need I say any more that now.
A horses head is worth three in the bed
Old nick? The Devil? Taurus makes sense... perhaps with Saturn looming powerful
Wonder if I can find a birth time for old Niccolo...
Astrology..Teach me please, I am so curious!! ! How can it affect him? Is that merely suprtstition?
Studied very basic things before....but..
P.S. I am Scorpio
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Too nice girls
Two Nice Girls is already taken
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Now about Machiavellianism, old Nick was a Taurus!! Need I say any more that now.
A horses head is worth three in the bed
Old nick? The Devil? Taurus makes sense... perhaps with Saturn looming powerful
Wonder if I can find a birth time for old Niccolo...
Astrology..Teach me please, I am so curious!! ! How can it affect him?
Some interesting features about the chart of Niccolo Machiaveli: http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Mac ... 2C_Niccolo
Sun in Taurus. Taurean Sun people tend to be interested in material security (among other things).
Saturn in Taurus would give him a preoccupation or possibly even an obsession (Pluto trines Saturn) with it, a fear of not having enough.
Saturn in the 4th house means that he might have had a tough childhood, possibly deprived, perhaps unloved, which could create insecurity and feelings of inadequacy, a need to create security at the roots. This adds another layer to the motivations behind his work.
His lot of fortune also lies in the 4th house, indicating that focusing on security, foundations and domestic affairs would bring success. He obviously had an intense interest in the security of nations states, or kingdoms/principalities (whatever), and became famous for his book, which is essentially about power, influence, stability and security (and the lack). (Scorpio/Pluto; Capricorn/Saturn)
Saturn is opposite the Midheaven:
Very relevant: http://astrologynotes.org/wiki/Saturn_o ... _Midheaven
Scorpio Midheaven:
These few elements may partially explain what underlies the content of The Prince
Oh, the Capricorn ascendant (Saturn therefore rules the chart) is rather significant too, but I don't have any more time.
I don't think so.
Cool
What an odd turn this thread took.
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