My thoughts on the English riots.

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You know these days I look around me and all I see is violence. I see people stealing from those in their darkest hour, throwing things through shop windows and looting everything inside. I see seering orange flames rip through buildings like old, tattered pieces of paper, only leaving a smouldering pile of ash left in place of a 200 year old building that survived two world wars, but not the intense corruption and hatred of modern greed. I see crowds of youths in violent standoffs with the police, only for both groups to emerge with their skulls sickeningly cracked in.

I really do think I am witnessing the collapse of the western world and our selfish ways. People are being hurt, small businesses destroyed, and why? Because we have raised a generation of children and adults who think they can have what they want whenever they want. Now that the “government” has stepped in, cut public services and completely ruined our already decaying country; they can no longer have their iProducts and and other things. This has inevitably has sent them into an uncontrollable, ever-falling spiral of greed, rage and utter hatred for society and the community around them. Welcome to 21st century society. Let me be your guide!

The thing is, we can’t just blame the teenagers for this. This is also the parents wrong-doings. They were the ones who didn’t raise their kids correctly, turning them into spoilt thugs. You gave your child whatever they wanted because you were too scared to say “no” to them, they have turned into mindless zombies fuelled only by consumer madness, greed and corporate brainwashing.

To conclude, I would say that England, and the rest of western society if we keep going, is doomed to collapse in on inself in a dramatic supernova of violence, war, rioting and other wonderful things caused by human nature, and of course obsession with money and material possessions.

-Kris.

Last edited by ScientistOfSound on 10 Aug 2011, 4:32 am, edited 1 time in total.

Something I have been thinking about , and it's generalization, Do we ( generally) place as much value on consumer goods as NT's. I think some of the social problems are caused by the pressured , continual relation of consumer goods to social status. When there is nothing else to define status,
it is vacuous, and this orgy of grabbing and stealing and violence is the real face of this system.

I'm sorry to use the term NT, but I guess I'm asking if we place the more significance on the utility and design of a consumer object and less on it's status.

If that is the case then what do we hold in the place of social status.

Just to clarify - these are English riots.

I'm sure we do. I think aspies care a bit less about social status than NT's, hence why most of us are just looking at all this pointless violence puzzled.

Yes, this is correct. These riots are only in England. That said other parts of the UK have their riots too. Northern Ireland being the main culprit with their yearly (at least) riots.

Changed, sorted

I have been on a mission over to the Guardian to request a public debate about redefining empathy in relation to AS issues.

I hung around to see what the Guardian posters made of the riots and asked them questions. Some want the rioters, aged 10-18 shot for stealing TV's .When I asked why they placed more value on a TV than a young human life they gave no rational answer. Herds are forming in response to the rioters and it seems an equally irrational response as the rioting itself.

The problem with irrational is it gives rise to cycles of violence.' Waves' that move through history and generations.

I have never really wanted things for social status more than the thing in it itself.

1. Completely agree that this is another hint of ongoing diminution of western selfish ways, if not necessarily collapse, but such signs have been getting more frequent.

2. Ladies and gentlemen, this is group mentality and mob behaviour at its quintessentially British best.

3. However, as pointed out by Marcia, Scotland has been free of this type of wanton rioting.

4. What's with blaming other nations than one's own for one's risk of terrorism, apart from ethnocentrism being a reason, when this is an example that one's terrorism risk comes from within one's own nation?

They're not being shot for stealing televisions; they're shot (probably after warnings) for breaching public order. People steal televisions all the time and get simply a slap on the wrist - ooh, that really hurt, that! - and haven't been shot. It's a public order issue.

Thank you.

Criminal scum don't value life. The low life scum in my city are happy to beat old people up I know as a few old woman were beating up close to were I live by gangs of kids. Also can I remained you of the Rhys Jones murder, that what gangs of yobs can do at there very worst. Low life scum in my city are also quite happy to rob off people in there own neighbourhood! Crimnals get away with too much this days, the justice system plays into there hands.

This country has no real justice no more, as our society over the years makes it cool to be a criminal.
The truth is its not, as crime harms everyone even the criminals who do the crimes.

I asked a very angry poster if they through it was right to kill a child for getting caught up in mob frenzy and stealing a TV . The poster was getting caught up in another kind of mob frenzy and yelled "yes !" shoot them for anything except refusing to go home .

I wonder if that poster would be ok to let there kids be out all hours of the night, hang around in streets and possibly join in on a looting mob.

If I had a child and they behaved like that I'll frog march them down to the nearest police station and have them arseted for stealing

I dealt with all this peer pressure crap as a parent. Parents can do this ,it is hard work but you get there in the end.

It's a mess out there, and we need to develop a fairer society but be firm as well. Bling-rioting is what happens when firmness isn't instilled.

Work, education, youth clubs and less mind-bling and stupid media messages and older people who can say "no you are not doing that because its wrong and you will be punished if you do." But not shot on our streets at the age of 12 .

I used to thing that the English Riots were a British rock group.

ruveyn