Astrology & Aspergers - is there a connection?

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01 Sep 2011, 8:51 am

Week of Youth & Ease

Not a cusp.


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28 Nov 2011, 10:17 am

I highly suggest you google search the results for Indigo / Crystal children and or " bundle charts astrology" and you will be interested in what this has to say. For quite some time now, I pondered whether there was a link between specific looking birth charts and having a disorder. Well it seems that those who have a " bundle" chart and were born after 1970 often display ADHD or Autistic traits. The chart pattern I'm referring to is the position of the planets at your time of birth, so if you can tell me what your chart pattern looks like ( astrolabe.com) I can further assess your theory.



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28 Nov 2011, 10:54 am

Jessi_in_wonderland wrote:
I highly suggest you google search the results for Indigo / Crystal children and or " bundle charts astrology" and you will be interested in what this has to say. For quite some time now, I pondered whether there was a link between specific looking birth charts and having a disorder. Well it seems that those who have a " bundle" chart and were born after 1970 often display ADHD or Autistic traits. The chart pattern I'm referring to is the position of the planets at your time of birth, so if you can tell me what your chart pattern looks like ( astrolabe.com) I can further assess your theory.


Mine's bundle-ish, if I disregard the outer planets.

I've looked at a lot of people's charts, some with ADHD or Autism, diagnosed or self diagnosed, and I haven't found a pattern like that. Some are in fact quite splashy or splayish


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28 Nov 2011, 11:07 am

My chart is a Bundle, and I have also read that certain conjunctions of Uranus and Capricorn are often prevalent in the charts. Here's a cool link that I've found today and someone posted about WP in it too!




http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/ar ... t-663.html

here's another link


http://blog.beliefnet.com/astrologicalm ... onnec.html



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28 Nov 2011, 1:23 pm

"Signs of Mental Illness" by Mitchell E. Gibson, MD is an interesting book that uses unusual astrological markers to predict things like depression, ADHD, etc. He doesn't get into ASD, but his methods are highly unusual, even for the subject of astrology. His system uses elevations - how high or low the planets are in the sky - in addition to degrees of the zodiac, which gives him an additional dimension to deal with.

If Dr. Gibson's research proves useful, then perhaps his techniques can be applied to autism as well.

I know a lot of people instantly dismiss astrology, but I enjoy it without making any claim on a causal relationship with respect personality. The ancient principle is "as above, so below," which to me represents the fractal nature of the universe. A fractal universe could contain the infinite number of multiverses that quantum mechanics predict, so I think it's pretty cool.

Besides, I really don't think a NT spent all the time in isolation tracking the planets and coming up with patterns and correspondences. This field, as a paleoscience, would likely have been the profession of our aspie and autistic ancestors, and for that reason alone deserves some respect.

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28 Nov 2011, 4:21 pm

oceandrop wrote:
Astrology and anything -- is there a connection?
Answer: No, it's called superstition.

^^^ This.


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28 Nov 2011, 7:40 pm

The Week of the Ruler, nice.

Must be why I'm so controlling and kind of wish I was a Tyrant.
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28 Nov 2011, 7:49 pm

I'm not really down with astrology but this sounds kind cool:

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If the autism rate continues to increase beyond the current rate of 1 in 150, we will need to change our thinking about what we are now calling a psychiatric disorder and expand our minds to accommodate the possibility that as humans we are entering a new age where technology and humanity are merging into a new life form. This possibility is a frightening one for many of us, but it is quite likely that the trend cannot be stopped in which case we would be better off learning to adapt our civilizations to accommodate the new breed of human rather than continue to try to sequ
ester them away from the mainstream.


Read more: http://blog.beliefnet.com/astrologicalm ... z1f3DYjXBa


So, we might actually be cyborgs. Humans are struggling to make a robot that can process and learn like humans can, so this apparent human but great systemiser might just be God saying 'you failed, here let me take care of that for you.' Or mother nature or whatever you want to believe. Nature's cyborgs.

OK, back to science.


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28 Nov 2011, 7:51 pm

John79 wrote:
"Signs of Mental Illness" by Mitchell E. Gibson, MD is an interesting book that uses unusual astrological markers to predict things like depression, ADHD, etc. He doesn't get into ASD, but his methods are highly unusual, even for the subject of astrology. His system uses elevations - how high or low the planets are in the sky - in addition to degrees of the zodiac, which gives him an additional dimension to deal with.


I think you're talking about declination there? Yup, some astrologers don't bother with that, but it can be useful. I've seen some interesting evidence of how 'out of bounds' planets can manifest.


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28 Nov 2011, 8:41 pm

Jessi_in_wonderland wrote:
I highly suggest you google search the results for Indigo / Crystal children and or " bundle charts astrology" and you will be interested in what this has to say. For quite some time now, I pondered whether there was a link between specific looking birth charts and having a disorder. Well it seems that those who have a " bundle" chart and were born after 1970 often display ADHD or Autistic traits. The chart pattern I'm referring to is the position of the planets at your time of birth, so if you can tell me what your chart pattern looks like ( astrolabe.com) I can further assess your theory.


Interesting...I guess mine is a locomotive pattern. All the planets fall on the left side of the chart, except Sun/Mercury in Gemini leading the locomotive in the 9th house. Neptune, the caboose, is in my 3rd house in opposition to the Sun.



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28 Nov 2011, 9:44 pm

September 6. Virgo 2, Week of the Enigma. Well, I looked up enigma and one of the definitions is "a person who is mysterious, puzzling or difficult to understand" I guess I am difficult to understand, being an Aspie, no-one IRL knows how I see things.


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28 Nov 2011, 10:23 pm

No relation.

You listed 12 cusp weeks. So if there was a correlation then the autism rate should be at least 23%. (12/52)



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29 Nov 2011, 2:36 am

can some good WPer out there tell me their opinion as to the linkage between my AS and this astrological configuration at my birth?

Ascendant in Scorpio 04°Sc35' 12 13°Li58'
Neptune 10°Sc08' in ASC/1st house-Scorpio
Mercury 28°Sc12' in ASC/1st house-Scorpio
Sun 14°Sg24' in 2nd house-Sagittarius
Jupiter 08°Cp16' in 3rd house-Capricorn-conjunct Saturn, sextile Neptune
Saturn 16°Cp42' in 3rd house-Capricorn-conjunct Jupiter
Venus 25°Cp25' in 3rd house-Capricorn, sextile Mercury
Mars 16°Ca53' Retrograde in 9th house-Cancer-conjunct Moon
Moon 21°Ca05' in 9th house-Cancer-conjunct Mars, opposition Venus, trine Mercury
Uranus 25°Le48' Retrograde in 10th house-Leo, square Mercury, quincunx Venus
Pluto 08°Vi08' in 10th house-Virgo-intercepted sign, square Neptune
Midheaven in Leo 14°Le22' 11 17°Vi37'

thanx in advance :)



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29 Nov 2011, 4:46 am

auntblabby wrote:
can some good WPer out there tell me their opinion as to the linkage between my AS and this astrological configuration at my birth?

Ascendant in Scorpio 04°Sc35' 12 13°Li58'
Neptune 10°Sc08' in ASC/1st house-Scorpio
Mercury 28°Sc12' in ASC/1st house-Scorpio
Sun 14°Sg24' in 2nd house-Sagittarius
Jupiter 08°Cp16' in 3rd house-Capricorn-conjunct Saturn, sextile Neptune
Saturn 16°Cp42' in 3rd house-Capricorn-conjunct Jupiter
Venus 25°Cp25' in 3rd house-Capricorn, sextile Mercury
Mars 16°Ca53' Retrograde in 9th house-Cancer-conjunct Moon
Moon 21°Ca05' in 9th house-Cancer-conjunct Mars, opposition Venus, trine Mercury
Uranus 25°Le48' Retrograde in 10th house-Leo, square Mercury, quincunx Venus
Pluto 08°Vi08' in 10th house-Virgo-intercepted sign, square Neptune
Midheaven in Leo 14°Le22' 11 17°Vi37'

thanx in advance :)


Hey, we have the same ascendant 8)

Saturn in third = difficulty communicating.

retro mars in Cancer is sluggish.

PM me your birth details... I'll have a proper look... need a chart


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29 Nov 2011, 5:04 am

April 13th.... week of the Pioneer

Here's my chart, any other WP'ers knowledgeable in this can PM me with what they think.
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29 Nov 2011, 8:00 am

What the hell is a cusp?

I was born in April, which is mid-spring. I really do not think which month you were born in affects Autism. I know loads of people and some were born in spring, some were born in summer, some were born in autumn and some were born in winter.


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