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BombsOnSyria wrote:
Israel killed 9 turkish civilians last year and they get away with it.How on earth is this possible?
Ugm,because we live in a world in which might makes right ?
20 Sep 2011, 10:01 pm
Abgal64 wrote:
Raptor wrote:
I find it more than a bit ironic that whenever there is mention about Israel that so many of these soft hearted, tolerant, equality minded liberals are against the existence of Israel as a state.
Here you have a country for a people that have been historically persecuted in one form or another and the left wants to deny them a sandbox in the middle of a bad neighborhood that they can call home.
On top of that they want to deny them the right to protect themselves from neighbors who would just assume wipe them from the face of the earth.
And they screech incessantly about how us conservatives are unfeeling and unfair and equate us to Nazis.
Hmmmm………..
I am not a liberal, I am a strange type of progressive, but I have these points to make:Here you have a country for a people that have been historically persecuted in one form or another and the left wants to deny them a sandbox in the middle of a bad neighborhood that they can call home.
On top of that they want to deny them the right to protect themselves from neighbors who would just assume wipe them from the face of the earth.
And they screech incessantly about how us conservatives are unfeeling and unfair and equate us to Nazis.
Hmmmm………..
Just because the Nazis did atrocities to the Israelis (the Holocaust), along with others, does not give the Israelis the right to do eeriely similar things to the Palestinians (as in the Gaza Strip blockade against mostly innocent Palestinians.) I think the Jews after the holocaust should have gotten Bavaria as their homeland, not a third state that was completely innocent in the holocaust.
The conquest of the Golon Heights, the Gaza Strip and the West Bank by Israeli forces is simple colonialism out of greed for resources and territory.
Finally, Fatah, unlike the Israeli government, promotes a secular and multicultural state as a solution to the problem. I do not support Hamas, as they are Islamists and I am anti-theistic, and I want them gone, just as I want the Israeli state gone. For though Israel is more secular than Hamas, this is just a relative comparison in the least secular region of the world, the Middle East.
And I do not equate conservatives with Nazis, I see conservatives as backward people with the wrong ideas that they demand others adhere to without giving logical, empirical evidence to support those beliefs. Equating a conservative Christian with a Nazi is childlike name calling, which is something that I see so many conservatives, as well as liberals, do in my native USA. That does not mean that I do not see American conservative ideology as stupid, backward and illogical, for I do, just as it does not mean that I like Barack Obama as my president, which I do not.
It is totaly unfair to equate all conservative christians to the fascist Nazi's,when in fact ,only the conservative christians who espouse the doctrine of dominionism,devine rights,and the moral supremacy of Israel are actualy fascists.
20 Sep 2011, 11:41 pm
Abgal64 wrote:
Raptor wrote:
I find it more than a bit ironic that whenever there is mention about Israel that so many of these soft hearted, tolerant, equality minded liberals are against the existence of Israel as a state.
Here you have a country for a people that have been historically persecuted in one form or another and the left wants to deny them a sandbox in the middle of a bad neighborhood that they can call home.
On top of that they want to deny them the right to protect themselves from neighbors who would just assume wipe them from the face of the earth.
And they screech incessantly about how us conservatives are unfeeling and unfair and equate us to Nazis.
Hmmmm………..
I am not a liberal, I am a strange type of progressive, but I have these points to make:Here you have a country for a people that have been historically persecuted in one form or another and the left wants to deny them a sandbox in the middle of a bad neighborhood that they can call home.
On top of that they want to deny them the right to protect themselves from neighbors who would just assume wipe them from the face of the earth.
And they screech incessantly about how us conservatives are unfeeling and unfair and equate us to Nazis.
Hmmmm………..
Just because the Nazis did atrocities to the Israelis (the Holocaust), along with others, does not give the Israelis the right to do eeriely similar things to the Palestinians (as in the Gaza Strip blockade against mostly innocent Palestinians.) I think the Jews after the holocaust should have gotten Bavaria as their homeland, not a third state that was completely innocent in the holocaust.
The conquest of the Golon Heights, the Gaza Strip and the West Bank by Israeli forces is simple colonialism out of greed for resources and territory.
Finally, Fatah, unlike the Israeli government, promotes a secular and multicultural state as a solution to the problem. I do not support Hamas, as they are Islamists and I am anti-theistic, and I want them gone, just as I want the Israeli state gone. For though Israel is more secular than Hamas, this is just a relative comparison in the least secular region of the world, the Middle East.
And I do not equate conservatives with Nazis, I see conservatives as backward people with the wrong ideas that they demand others adhere to without giving logical, empirical evidence to support those beliefs. Equating a conservative Christian with a Nazi is childlike name calling, which is something that I see so many conservatives, as well as liberals, do in my native USA. That does not mean that I do not see American conservative ideology as stupid, backward and illogical, for I do, just as it does not mean that I like Barack Obama as my president, which I do not.
Israel has the right to do whatever it takes to save the life of their people and their homeland from a genocidal terrorist enemy. Additionally, I consider your uppity opinion of American conservatism to be more of a compliment than anything because I can see that you don't have a clue....
20 Sep 2011, 11:47 pm
jamesofthecommons wrote:
Abgal64 wrote:
Raptor wrote:
I find it more than a bit ironic that whenever there is mention about Israel that so many of these soft hearted, tolerant, equality minded liberals are against the existence of Israel as a state.
Here you have a country for a people that have been historically persecuted in one form or another and the left wants to deny them a sandbox in the middle of a bad neighborhood that they can call home.
On top of that they want to deny them the right to protect themselves from neighbors who would just assume wipe them from the face of the earth.
And they screech incessantly about how us conservatives are unfeeling and unfair and equate us to Nazis.
Hmmmm………..
I am not a liberal, I am a strange type of progressive, but I have these points to make:Here you have a country for a people that have been historically persecuted in one form or another and the left wants to deny them a sandbox in the middle of a bad neighborhood that they can call home.
On top of that they want to deny them the right to protect themselves from neighbors who would just assume wipe them from the face of the earth.
And they screech incessantly about how us conservatives are unfeeling and unfair and equate us to Nazis.
Hmmmm………..
Just because the Nazis did atrocities to the Israelis (the Holocaust), along with others, does not give the Israelis the right to do eeriely similar things to the Palestinians (as in the Gaza Strip blockade against mostly innocent Palestinians.) I think the Jews after the holocaust should have gotten Bavaria as their homeland, not a third state that was completely innocent in the holocaust.
The conquest of the Golon Heights, the Gaza Strip and the West Bank by Israeli forces is simple colonialism out of greed for resources and territory.
Finally, Fatah, unlike the Israeli government, promotes a secular and multicultural state as a solution to the problem. I do not support Hamas, as they are Islamists and I am anti-theistic, and I want them gone, just as I want the Israeli state gone. For though Israel is more secular than Hamas, this is just a relative comparison in the least secular region of the world, the Middle East.
And I do not equate conservatives with Nazis, I see conservatives as backward people with the wrong ideas that they demand others adhere to without giving logical, empirical evidence to support those beliefs. Equating a conservative Christian with a Nazi is childlike name calling, which is something that I see so many conservatives, as well as liberals, do in my native USA. That does not mean that I do not see American conservative ideology as stupid, backward and illogical, for I do, just as it does not mean that I like Barack Obama as my president, which I do not.
It is totaly unfair to equate all conservative christians to the fascist Nazi's,when in fact ,only the conservative christians who espouse the doctrine of dominionism,devine rights,and the moral supremacy of Israel are actualy fascists.
Fascist this fascist that. Maybe you need to live on a fascist country to see what fascism really is. In your case it wouldn't be long before you were looking at it from the inside of the barbed wire of an internment camp.
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22 Sep 2011, 1:22 am
ruveyn wrote:
phil777 wrote:
It's not plagiarism if the author is correctly cited, which I did.
And I'm pretty sure that deep down inside, this is what ruveyn meant (or wishes, after 3 years or lurking on the forums and getting to know his mind).
And I'm pretty sure that deep down inside, this is what ruveyn meant (or wishes, after 3 years or lurking on the forums and getting to know his mind).
The Israelis can take care of their Palestinian Problem. I am worried about Jihadis hijacking planes to crash into tall buildings, or poisoning public water supplies, or blowing up tunnels and bridges all in the name of Allah, the Merciful and Compassionate. The Palestinians want a piece of land they think is theirs. The Jihadis want a world in which everyone, and I mean everyone, sticks his arse up in the air five times daily to worship their Demon God. Now which is more of a danger? The answer is obvious.
ruveyn
22 Sep 2011, 1:23 am
Raptor wrote:
jamesofthecommons wrote:
Abgal64 wrote:
Raptor wrote:
I find it more than a bit ironic that whenever there is mention about Israel that so many of these soft hearted, tolerant, equality minded liberals are against the existence of Israel as a state.
Here you have a country for a people that have been historically persecuted in one form or another and the left wants to deny them a sandbox in the middle of a bad neighborhood that they can call home.
On top of that they want to deny them the right to protect themselves from neighbors who would just assume wipe them from the face of the earth.
And they screech incessantly about how us conservatives are unfeeling and unfair and equate us to Nazis.
Hmmmm………..
I am not a liberal, I am a strange type of progressive, but I have these points to make:Here you have a country for a people that have been historically persecuted in one form or another and the left wants to deny them a sandbox in the middle of a bad neighborhood that they can call home.
On top of that they want to deny them the right to protect themselves from neighbors who would just assume wipe them from the face of the earth.
And they screech incessantly about how us conservatives are unfeeling and unfair and equate us to Nazis.
Hmmmm………..
Just because the Nazis did atrocities to the Israelis (the Holocaust), along with others, does not give the Israelis the right to do eeriely similar things to the Palestinians (as in the Gaza Strip blockade against mostly innocent Palestinians.) I think the Jews after the holocaust should have gotten Bavaria as their homeland, not a third state that was completely innocent in the holocaust.
The conquest of the Golon Heights, the Gaza Strip and the West Bank by Israeli forces is simple colonialism out of greed for resources and territory.
Finally, Fatah, unlike the Israeli government, promotes a secular and multicultural state as a solution to the problem. I do not support Hamas, as they are Islamists and I am anti-theistic, and I want them gone, just as I want the Israeli state gone. For though Israel is more secular than Hamas, this is just a relative comparison in the least secular region of the world, the Middle East.
And I do not equate conservatives with Nazis, I see conservatives as backward people with the wrong ideas that they demand others adhere to without giving logical, empirical evidence to support those beliefs. Equating a conservative Christian with a Nazi is childlike name calling, which is something that I see so many conservatives, as well as liberals, do in my native USA. That does not mean that I do not see American conservative ideology as stupid, backward and illogical, for I do, just as it does not mean that I like Barack Obama as my president, which I do not.
It is totaly unfair to equate all conservative christians to the fascist Nazi's,when in fact ,only the conservative christians who espouse the doctrine of dominionism,devine rights,and the moral supremacy of Israel are actualy fascists.
Fascist this fascist that. Maybe you need to live on a fascist country to see what fascism really is. In your case it wouldn't be long before you were looking at it from the inside of the barbed wire of an internment camp.
You can be sure you are in ,or are soon to be in a fascist society,when you have people like this RAPTOR who would like to see people behind barbed wire for merely speaking their minds.
RAPTOR;maybe you need to take the time to read a few books about the subjects of fascism,dominionism,nationalism and the doctrine of Manifest Destiny,before you go and spout off to anyone else, anything about where they need to live and what they need to learn.
For your information,fascism occours in stages,therefore the fact that most people in this country are not yet locked up for speaking what is on their mind, is in no way an indication that this is not a fascist society,or that it is not becoming a fascist society.The merger of government power with that of private corporate power, is a common characteristic of fascist society;ceartainly you would not argue that such a merger is not occouring in this nation,would you ?
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