The Importance of Male Style

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RICKY5
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14 Oct 2011, 8:24 pm

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/10/ ... ale-style/

Work on your appearance guys. The trick is the more "put together" your clothing is, the higher in social status you will appear. That is what leads to "love".



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14 Oct 2011, 9:47 pm

I agree with this completely and put a lot of effort into it.

The main thing is that it is something that anyone can do and it is completely under your control, it's also another vehicle for expressing yourself to help offset your body language deficits.

It gives me more confidence and makes me feel better, even if it hasn't exactly turned me into a "chick-magnet" :wink:



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14 Oct 2011, 10:16 pm

I peeked at that article and it looked like advertising copy. "want to get chicks? try armani shoes!"

Expensive clothes do seem like a good way to attract shallow people interested in money and power, though.

I'd rather have clothes that feel right, don't hurt my eyes with their garish colors, don't make my skin break out and fit perfectly. So I spend a lot of time tailoring my own clothing till it fits right. But I don't care if it's laundered or spotless. I mostly wear gabardine wool and oiled canvas anyway, which both smell quite distinct. Both of those are vy hard to clean.

People tend to mistake this for "my style." I just don't want to squirm through life. I kinda sorta agree with Grisha, but modify it to: clothes that fit ME perfectly help give me confidence because I'm not fidgeting and scratching and pulling them back into place.

Especially a nice tight fitting vest. A little deep body pressure on the midriff....mmmmm.....makes me stand u straight for sure.



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14 Oct 2011, 10:36 pm

I tend to get high points for style from NTs I encounter while I'm out at night. I get random comments proclaiming that I look sharp. The big trick I found to male style is there's a balance between dressing well, but not over-dressing.

My specific style, for those who might want specifics is:

1. A quality suit jacket.

The downside here is you're often gonna end up buying a pair of pants you will never wear. That's not to say that the separate blazer rack won't yield results, just . . . the best stuff is almost always hiding on the full suit set racks.

If you need a "can't f**k it up" brand, go with Sean Jean. Impeccable taste, not ridiculously over-priced, but a solid expression that you have money and you know what good-lookin looks like.

Pair a dark gray, pinstripe jacket with a dark, colored (burgundy, dark grape, etc) shirt and the thing sells itself.

2. Nice, pressed button down shirt, no tie, open collar.

Good shirts can be had for $20 to $40. Get handy with an iron. Again, the same message here. I have money, but I'm not an over-spending dick. Good taste means looking like you don't just pay for taste. $2000 buys a lot of taste. But $40 and actual good taste works just as well -- sometimes better.

3. Stylish jeans.

Something a bit distressed. In most settings, suit pants are just overkill. If you're in a setting where style is more important than looking professional, forgo the suit pants and go straight for the jeans.

4. Black, simple sneakers.

People in the style world will tell you to wear nice shoes. They're wrong. Wear unremarkable sneakers that are flat-out ignored. If you're in a setting where style matters, the only thing your shoes can do is get you in trouble. It's better that your shoes go unnoticed. Also, frankly, comfort matters when it comes to your feet.

5. Hair.

Just make sure it's brushed and has some conditioner in it. Don't over-do hair. As a guy, if you can't be bothered to do haircare, then just keep your hair buzzed or even shaved. In this regard, hair is a lot like shoes . . . it can't win you points, but it lose the entire match in a single shot.



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15 Oct 2011, 5:10 am

RICKY5 theres only one issue with your suggestion:
-Every book/article/whatever on this issue(and by saying this I mean that theres not a single one that will disagree with this)says that you have to be comfortable with yourself.
Not everyone feels comfortable using a certain kind of clothing and every male should make his best attempt to find a clothing stile that they are comfortable with and is considered to be acceptable, forcing yourself to use a certain kind of clothing just to get laid doesnt work because females see that you arent comfortable with yourself.


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15 Oct 2011, 5:34 am

spongy wrote:
RICKY5 theres only one issue with your suggestion:
-Every book/article/whatever on this issue(and by saying this I mean that theres not a single one that will disagree with this)says that you have to be comfortable with yourself.
Not everyone feels comfortable using a certain kind of clothing and every male should make his best attempt to find a clothing stile that they are comfortable with and is considered to be acceptable, forcing yourself to use a certain kind of clothing just to get laid doesnt work because females see that you arent comfortable with yourself.


From a female perspective...making myself wear nice clothes that stood out made me look better, so it made me feel better anyway, including trying out things I'd never even considered before, like dresses.

I totally agree that dressing nicely wins points. It's not just about impressing others, it's impressing yourself and making you feel more comfortable because you look much better. And feeling more comfortable around people is a bonus.

Another important one is hair. I like messy, but stylish messy.



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15 Oct 2011, 6:33 am

smudge wrote:
spongy wrote:
RICKY5 theres only one issue with your suggestion:
-Every book/article/whatever on this issue(and by saying this I mean that theres not a single one that will disagree with this)says that you have to be comfortable with yourself.
Not everyone feels comfortable using a certain kind of clothing and every male should make his best attempt to find a clothing stile that they are comfortable with and is considered to be acceptable, forcing yourself to use a certain kind of clothing just to get laid doesnt work because females see that you arent comfortable with yourself.


From a female perspective...making myself wear nice clothes that stood out made me look better, so it made me feel better anyway, including trying out things I'd never even considered before, like dresses.

I totally agree that dressing nicely wins points. It's not just about impressing others, it's impressing yourself and making you feel more comfortable because you look much better. And feeling more comfortable around people is a bonus.

Another important one is hair. I like messy, but stylish messy.

From the perspective of someone that was bullied as a child due to a classicism issue there are times when you may not be able to feel comfortable wearing something even though its meant to make you feel better about yourself.
It could be related to the fact that it reminds you of having all classmates laugh at you for being forced to dress like you were going to play golf everyday(my parents are obsessed with it and tried to force it in me/my sisters at a young age) until you stood up for yourself or to several other things. I just dont feel comfortable wearing certain kinds of clothing because they bring up bad memories.

Having said that there are alternatives out there that may be similar to most people but to me they make a difference and thats what people need to find something that makes them feel comfortable even though it may be less socially respectable.

I guess that some therapy could sort this but I dont have the resources for that option at the moment,


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15 Oct 2011, 7:17 am

breaking news!

your cloths do NOT matter as much as you think!! !

ever heard of Swagger? Confidence?
women love a man that is "well dressed" however that could be simple as a uniform, but even if the guy is in a tux and has little swagger, he will only look ok

put a guy in jeans and a untucked t-shirt that walks tall and has confidence, will attract alot more attention



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15 Oct 2011, 7:31 am

RICKY5 wrote:
Work on your appearance guys. The trick is the more "put together" your clothing is, the higher in social status you will appear. That is what leads to "love".


I wish that was the case, if so I'd be in Regent street now breaking the bank. However having an appealing sense of style can get a foot in the door in cases. There are three simple principles that are take into account when looking to buy clothes.

1. Wear clothes that are in proportion to your body or show off your best assets. Avoid wearing NFL jerseys or clothes that overhang or appear baggy.
2. Wear colors that are complementary, avoid wearing bright clashing colors. For instance, wearing a brown jacket, khaki or beige pants and brown boot shoes to match. Avoid logos, brands or bold patterns.
3. Don't overdress or over accessorize, sometimes more is less, for example a huge gold chain. Wear something that reflects your personality. For instance, a simple watch, belt buckle, necklace, leather cuff, silver ring.

http://www.hm.com/gb/subdepartment/MEN#page=0 This website is particularly good for men and women and shows many examples of fashion that can be viewed as attractive. Also http://www.marksandspencer.com/Mens/b/43371030 Marks & Spencer has many great styles of clothing for people who are going for more of a seasoned mature look.



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15 Oct 2011, 7:42 am

HondaZx2 wrote:
breaking news!

your cloths do NOT matter as much as you think!! !

ever heard of Swagger? Confidence?
women love a man that is "well dressed" however that could be simple as a uniform, but even if the guy is in a tux and has little swagger, he will only look ok

put a guy in jeans and a untucked t-shirt that walks tall and has confidence, will attract alot more attention

Exactly my point.
Guys should wear what they are comfortable with.


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15 Oct 2011, 8:15 am

spongy wrote:
Exactly my point.
Guys should wear what they are comfortable with.


Yes, you should wear something that portrays good stature and body language but if you're not comfortable in your own skin or confident in who you are, no amount of clothing is going to help.



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15 Oct 2011, 8:26 am

As I've said before, when it comes to clothes, fit is everything.

A guy in a faded T-shirt and ripped jeans that fit properly is going to look loads more attractive than a guy in an expensive, fashionable, but badly fitted suit.

Jeans, stylish but simple boots, and a nice casual button-down (plaid striped or solid, no prints) will look good on 90% of guys in 90% of social situations. If you have trouble finding stuff that hangs right on you, learn to sew. When I started buying my shirts just a bit too big and altering them myself, for the first time in my life I started getting compliments on my clothing.


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15 Oct 2011, 2:37 pm

It depends on what type of girl you want to attract.

Some hot girls of a certain type don't care about stinky scruffy guys as long as they're alpha.



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15 Oct 2011, 3:22 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
Some hot girls of a certain type don't care about stinky scruffy guys as long as they're alpha.


Or a beta male, for that matter. Some people prefer betas, as alphas are too aggressive for their taste. For that matter, some people downright prefer scruffy stinky humans. (i know i do)

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15 Oct 2011, 3:32 pm

Point I'm trying to make is such: are you trying to force your square peg through the round hole in order to attract a "conventionally" "desirable" person? I feel like they might be put off when they later find out that you were just putting on airs.

Why not just focus on your "natural" inclinations? Wouldn't that be more likely to attract a like minded individual?

Say, for example, you are an awkward, geeky slob. Why not look for the same in a mate? Seems like you would have fun together. Why instead pine for a conventionally pretty, meticulously "done up" person? Are you perhaps so susceptible to the television/magazine onslaught of what societal standards of beauty are? Does "beauty" actually relate in any way to two people's compatibility as partners?

I say, dress in what feels right, and look for someone comfortable in their clothes. You will likely attract each other, and hopefully not by your textbook-pretty couture & coiffure.



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15 Oct 2011, 11:53 pm

i like when men wear all sorts of clothes, but how they seem to feel in the clothes and whether they look confident pulling it off is most important. silk suits are hot, but so is duck cloth. a just-rolled-out-of-bed, rumpled look is very sexy in my eyes. makes me think of a puppy dog that needs a cuddle for some reason.


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