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29 Oct 2011, 1:52 am

i would like to find out my current iq once and for all... i was tested as a child but my mother cannot give me a set nuber she says 129 through 135 ish. i took an online short test a couple of years back and it said 110 or something... who knows i would like a professional test but there are several problems 1 insurance 2 fear of disappointment and 3 i could never muster the attention span for such a thing. it was torture as child and that is all i remember about it. i was recently off my meds for add because i was experiencing schizophrenia like symptoms and im not sure if the are permanent... should i just say its just some stupid number and leave it alone? 8O


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29 Oct 2011, 7:12 am

IQ is rather like age, both best left to others' imagination. my IQ was depressing one day, a pleasant surprise the next, IOW my performance is highly variable. my advice is to take several different IQ tests over a period of time, but ONLY after one has been well-rested and fed within 2 hours of taking the tests. being tired and hungry is hell on one's performance. average the results of these tests with no weighting. then whatever the result, file it away someplace and go on about your business.



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29 Oct 2011, 8:58 am

Binet initially developed IQ tests to identify elementary school students who might need extra help or instruction in order to catch up to the rest of the students their age. Later Terman used it as a justification for his racist ideologies and to promote a eugenicist agenda , most psychological studies have been heavily biased, by the belief that the human behavior of a race of people is best explained by genetic heredity which would not explain the causes of IQ differences among the people of a group, or if said IQ differences can be attributed to the environment.Later IQ scores became something of a bragging right or a way to make certain people feel they belonged to some elite (i.e. MENSA) however
Others due to a low score, their intellectual growth in areas they might excel could be stunted after being placed in remedial classes simply because the test never determined that they were good in these areas even if they were demonstrating skills well above their developmental level outside of the test setting even though this could be due to problems in not attaining enough education.
Sadly, like most other human inventions that began with altruistic intentions (the guillotine, dynamite, air warfare, nuclear weaponry, etc), the IQ test has become yet another gauge with which to rub in others peoples faces, like some sort of institutional equivalent to reproductive organ contests ("mine is bigger than yours" comes to mind). Thus, you have some folks going around saying that "my IQ is bigger than yours" (or some interested proxy parties; ie, vicarious parents of some prodigy, the media, etc), with the same arrogance and glee, as a well-endowed men, or a well-endowed women (the cup-size issue, is really the female equivalent of the inches issue, imo). Thus, instead of improving human life by equalizing the playing filed, for the most part it has just become a way of deterring at best, destroying at worst, both the confidence of many an individual, and sowing further inequality.
As many things in the universe (such as motion), intelligence seems to be relative, subjective to one's ecological niche, as someone else commented on this topic. An example would be something that one can extraplolate from Inventors comment.



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30 Oct 2011, 7:22 am

some pertinent quotes by some sharp cookies-

"Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid." [Albert Einstein]

“[There are] None so empty as those who are full of themselves.” [Benjamin Whichcote (1609–1683) British Puritan divine and scholar]

“Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people” [Eleanor Roosevelt]

"I think computer viruses should count as life. I think it says something about human nature that the only form of life we have created so far is purely destructive. We've created life in our own image." [Stephen Hawking]

"I don't know, I don't care, and it doesn't make any difference!" [Albert Einstein]

"One thing only I know, and that is that I know nothing." [Socrates]

"And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know." [Holy Bible, 1 Cor 8:2]

"Cleverness is not wisdom." [Euripides]



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30 Oct 2011, 2:36 pm

My IQ test showed that I'm slightly above average.



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30 Oct 2011, 2:43 pm

babybuggy32 wrote:
should i just say its just some stupid number and leave it alone? 8O


If it's low enough, it'd be safe to say it's some stupid number and it's better to leave it alone. :wink:



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16 Jun 2012, 12:48 am

It's interesting that yours were variable.

Autistic IQ scores often go up significantly later in childhood though degeneration is also possible though less likely.

Consider the way we develop our interests vs. the general population and consider that any IQ test is going to reflect the culture and context of the society that made it no matter how hard they try to make it unbiased.

A read about an autistic boy who had an IQ test that had several questions that mentioned farm animals. They took him to a farm to learn about farm animals and a year later his IQ was genius.

What if our IQ tends to be variable making the typical autistic IQ "random" or at least random between a range.

It would seem to describe us often fumbling over simple things yet settling difficult tasks quickly and with ease. But this would throw all IQ testing into question. Personally I think IQ tests just measure one's knowledge of what ever is on the test. The reason they can usually get consistency with most people's scores is because of social communication leading to most people holding roughly the same knowledge(which sadly is more and more often things like fake reality tv). Since our skills vary greatly from this our scores may show high variability.

But I do think there are people who are legitimately more intelligent than other people. It's just that if your focus has been in places most people's hasn't this can either give you a boost if the test happens to cover familiar things or a loss if you are unfamiliar with the context of examples in the test. This makes predicting our real intelligence level (all things averaged out) difficult if not impossible.