Possible idea on GUT?

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I think a lot. More than I should.

The concept of gravity has been weighing heavily on me (pun intended), and one fine night I realized something profound, but before I get into that I want to start with a couple of known characteristics of gravity:

* The pull of gravity is proportional to the mass of an object
* The pull of gravity is inversely proportional from the square of the distance of an object

How would one unify the force of gravity with electromagnetism and strong and weak forces etc?

Well my idea goes something like this. Think of gravity as the surface of a lake, granted this is a 2 dimensional view, but thinking in 3 or more dimensions gives me a headache. Think of it for the sake of discussion as a smooth still lake. The surface of this lake like any lake can carry ripples outward from a source within the lake. I think gravity is not a separate force, I think it's the force that carries all other waves on it's "surface". Ripples in gravity are produced from anything other than mass (EM for example), whereas Einstein's warped space so to speak is produced from mass. And it goes deeper than that because gravity pulls at a rate that's calculated between the mass and the distance of an object.

This would explain many features of electromagnetism and time and whatnot.

* It would help to explain why time dilates in a gravity well; light has to travel up the well like a boat driving down a river against it's flow. Light still travels at the speed of light, but it's going up the down escalator.

* It would help to explain Black Holes. Gravity is being pulled from below to the event horizon at the speed of light so light (ripples in gravity) never escapes. It's motor so to speak is running at the same speed of the river in the opposite direction.

* It may even explain quasars. If the mass of a black hole reduces just enough, the speed at which it's pulling inward would slow down enough to let light escape, in the case of a quasar, it would be a lot of trapped photons, so it would shine very brightly.


These are just my ideas.

Yes, you'd need to mathematically formulate these ideas (which wouldn't be easy--sounds like you'd need some interesting geometry and calculus). But here are my impressions:

*According to Einstein, gravity has no inherent substance or force, it is simply that space is curve that the easiest path curves according to our coordinate system--or rather the coordinate system itself is curved (it's hard to describe in a single sentence. There's a great demonstration for this using tape and large beach balls). If by ripples in gravity you mean ripples in space time, then those are already accounted for theoretically in the form of gravitation waves. We have some indirect observations of them and sooner or later will be building an instrument capable of directly detecting them.

*If I'm understanding what you're saying correctly, ripples in gravity would cause disturbances in gravity. Admittedly, they'd be very tiny, probably not detectable yet (hopefully in a few years once they get some of the big gravity wave detectors operating) but it seems kind of messy.

*You don't need anything special to explain that aspects of black holes. Relativity does it just fine. Even Newtonian mechanics can describe something that has so much gravity that the escape velocity would be greater than light below an event horizon.

*You seem to misunderstand how quasars work. The light from them isn't all that mysterious--it's the light from all the gas and other stuff that's being sucked into the black which is getting compressed and heating up to enormous temperatures.

*I'm pretty sure your explanation of gravitational time dilation is unnecessary too, but as I haven't learned/can't remember enough about it, I can't offer any detailed criticisms.

I'm sorry if this seems harsh, but then science isn't about being nice.

Speaking of gravity waves, have you seen this?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EJ8r9Rhfw8[/youtube]

...and Blessed Brian makes a very silly mistake...can you spot it?

This app gives you an idea of my idea.

http://academics.uww.edu/physics/course ... veadd.html

Well the basic idea is EM adds to gravity waves. Imagine one ball is gravity and the other is EM. Something like that anyway.

i thought the various laser detectors around the world would be starting to measure something by now.

that is if they can isolate the noise from the trucks driving past them some 15 kilometers way.

I don't think they are on the right track. In my opinion gravity waves at least on earth scales come in very high amplitudes. IMO the higher the amplitude, the lower the frequency and the higher the gravity. It works in obverse for small objects.

I think black holes are the way they are because the frequency is so low and the amplitude is so high that light just can't escape because it never reaches the exit so to speak. Light in that instance rides a gravity wave that is nearly 100% vertical. I guess that would be 90 degrees from center or something like that.

Well that in mind you won't notice a change in light patterns because light rides relative to the gravity wave, or rather ON the gravity wave. And unless a black hole just decides to pass by earth you won't notice any change, not even sure if you would notice a change anyway. Take the moon for example, if that ill-conceived device worked, you'd see a definite shift in light patterns every time the moon goes over head. Light and gravity are immutable in my idea, so any disturbance won't affect the light patterns, light can't travel faster than gravity or vise versa.

I guess the best way to describe what's been riding my brain EM, drop a pebble in a lake. The lake represents ever present gravity and the ripples in the lake represent electromagnetic radiation. To me EM is merely a disturbance of proper geometry through gravity. That's how I think physics will finally unify gravity with EM.

Now if I had a calculus guy write out this simple equation...