How can a Christian also be a Republican?
If we look, for example, at material from Luke 6
"Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God.
Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled.
Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh.
Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake. Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.
But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation.
Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger.
Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep.
Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.
But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not to take thy coat also. Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again. And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise. For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them. And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same. And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again. But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil. Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.
Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again. "
And he spake a parable unto them, "Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch? The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Either how canst thou say to thy brother, 'Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye', when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye."
Republicans seem to have the Beatitudes and the Woes completely ass-backwards:
Blessed are ye that can afford delicacies: for ye shall be filled.
Blessed are ye that laugh now: for ye shall laugh even louder when we cut your taxes even further.
Blessed are ye, when men shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for great will be your reward on Earth.
But woe unto you that are poor! for ye shall never receive any consolation.
Woe unto you that are hungry! for ye shall hunger.
Woe unto you that cannot afford medical care! for ye shall mourn and weep.
Woe unto you, when the bank forecloses on your home! for ye got what ye deserved."
Republicans are also not big on turning the other cheek, nor on giving to a thief more than the thief had intended to take. Republicans are very big on seeing and punishing what they regard as sins in other people (for example, homosexuality) while at the same time glossing over their own sins (including sexual harassment, multiple adulteries and divorce).
So, how can these Republicans get away with parading themselves as Christians? And, how can Christians buy into their deceits?
I am a Christian, but no longer a republican. (I'm now a libertarian.)
I DO believe in social equality for everyone and I really don't see how whether or not anyone personally views something like homosexuality as a sin should ever enter into the picture. Oh my gosh, they are PEOPLE and should be allowed to get married.
I am pro charity and pro helping people who need help. I AM NOT, however, pro-government mandated compassion. I feel like that's a cop out.
I DO think 99% of the churches in the US spend their money on the wrong things. Someone please explain to my why we need a church WITH A MALL INSIDE OF IT while members of their own congregation are struggling to pay medical bills?
I don't, however, believe more government is the answer. I mean, the government can't manage the money it has, why are we wanting to give it more?! The VA is notoriously the worst health care system in the entire country, and we want to turn over the ENTIRE health care system to the same people? That just doesn't make any sense to me.
The quote you gave is great, but it's the difference between wanting things to be PRIVATE or have them GOVERNMENT OWNED.
I'm with Penn and Teller on this one.
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Military members, retirees, and their families get Tricare, which is better than what a lot of other people get.
It is certainly better than nothing. Why not just put all of the uninsured on Tricare?
Is there any Biblical verse that would be violated by providing health care to the uninsured?
Military members, retirees, and their families get Tricare, which is better than what a lot of other people get.
It is certainly better than nothing. Why not just put all of the uninsured on Tricare?
Is there any Biblical verse that would be violated by providing health care to the uninsured?
TriCare is great. All should have it.
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I am a member of the Australian Labor Party because I believe that a social conscience is entailed within my ideology. I am a member of the component within that party which is socially conservative and economically centrist. But I do not have a problem with Christians being members of more conservative parties.
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I see this too, but many people have a lust to see others punished. It's like they think there is some great tit-for-tat scoreboard that they must keep in check. Although the leaders often excuse themselves from this same standard...
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Well, I'm referring to the members who are socially liberal, not socially conservative. As for economics, it matters less so long as the government of a nation does not go too far with taxation as to properly be considered theft by anyone who doesn't have a strange doctrine of "any law made is right" or whatever it's various formulations actually are. Caesar might be on the coin, but if all the coins that a person earns are Caesar's then a person can earn nothing.
Yes, tricare is great, but I'm specifically talking about the quality of the medical establishment that is the VA.
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So-called "Christians" have hijacked the Republican party, with their Evango-Fascist ideologies. Spanish and Italian fascists also enjoyed the support of "Christians." Democrat and Labour parties have not claimed to be the exclusive domain of Christianity. However, the overall goals of the Democrat and Labour parties would be much more consistent with a genuinely Christian outlook.
I disagree. The rob from the rich and give to the poor mentality only works if it's compassion based charity and not government forced compassion. If I'm rich and I want to help people who aren't rich, then I can give them money, and THAT is Christian. If I'm rich and someone steals my money and gives it to people who aren't rich, that is NOT Christian.
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So-called "Christians" have hijacked the Republican party, with their Evango-Fascist ideologies. Spanish and Italian fascists also enjoyed the support of "Christians." Democrat and Labour parties have not claimed to be the exclusive domain of Christianity. However, the overall goals of the Democrat and Labour parties would be much more consistent with a genuinely Christian outlook.
No, supporting sexual immorality, infanticide, lack of death penalty for murderers and rapists, and otherwise PC crap is not consistent with a "genuinely Christian outlook" unless one has some very warped definitions for either the word "genuine", "Christian", or both.
So-called "Christians" have hijacked the Republican party, with their Evango-Fascist ideologies. Spanish and Italian fascists also enjoyed the support of "Christians." Democrat and Labour parties have not claimed to be the exclusive domain of Christianity. However, the overall goals of the Democrat and Labour parties would be much more consistent with a genuinely Christian outlook.
No, supporting sexual immorality, infanticide, lack of death penalty for murderers and rapists, and otherwise PC crap is not consistent with a "genuinely Christian outlook" unless one has some very warped definitions for either the word "genuine", "Christian", or both.
I might give the life peanlty to rapists.
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So-called "Christians" have hijacked the Republican party, with their Evango-Fascist ideologies. Spanish and Italian fascists also enjoyed the support of "Christians." Democrat and Labour parties have not claimed to be the exclusive domain of Christianity. However, the overall goals of the Democrat and Labour parties would be much more consistent with a genuinely Christian outlook.
No, supporting sexual immorality, infanticide, lack of death penalty for murderers and rapists, and otherwise PC crap is not consistent with a "genuinely Christian outlook" unless one has some very warped definitions for either the word "genuine", "Christian", or both.
I might give the life peanlty to rapists.
First, the word "read" is not spelled "red", Bible is a proper noun, and yes I've read enough of the Bible to know that rape is not rewarded but punished with death so as to discourage it. Do you consider dying a reward?
I disagree. The rob from the rich and give to the poor mentality only works if it's compassion based charity and not government forced compassion. If I'm rich and I want to help people who aren't rich, then I can give them money, and THAT is Christian. If I'm rich and someone steals my money and gives it to people who aren't rich, that is NOT Christian.
Hold on. First of all, as I understand it, Libertarians subscribe to atheism rather than Christianity. How can someone be moved by Atlas Shrugged and not become a flaming atheist? Of course, Mr. Paul feels compelled to feign Christianity, because he is seeking the Republican nomination.
Second of all, if you are a Christian and someone wants to steal your money, whether to give to people who aren't rich or for any other reason, then you are called upon by Jesus to allow all of your money to be stolen.
I disagree. The rob from the rich and give to the poor mentality only works if it's compassion based charity and not government forced compassion. If I'm rich and I want to help people who aren't rich, then I can give them money, and THAT is Christian. If I'm rich and someone steals my money and gives it to people who aren't rich, that is NOT Christian.
So why did Jesus evict the money lenders from the temple using force?
If you have a psychotic, greedy 1% that control all the wealth and are very willing to use violence to subjugate the other 99%, how is it christian to let them continue to trample on the weak and the helpless?
