I think all the friends I've made have been abnormal, too.

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02 Oct 2006, 11:00 pm

I concluded that my old best friend has Antisocial Personality Disorder (after reading about it one day)
One of my old friends is Schizophrenic
Another one of my old friends has ADHD
My current best friend seems to have hints of Obsessive Compulsiveness and Borderline Autism.

It kind of makes sense though. I'm really bad at trying to socialize with "normal" people. They all think I'm really strange and look at me funny.

What do you guys think? Is it really that much easier for we with AS to make friends who have "personality flaws/disorders" ?



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03 Oct 2006, 1:05 am

It's possible, however unlikely, that you have been reading too many psychology books, and your friends are, by and large, fairly healthy people.

Just a passing thought.

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03 Oct 2006, 1:26 am

Maka-Ra wrote:
It's possible, however unlikely, that you have been reading too many psychology books, and your friends are, by and large, fairly healthy people.

Just a passing thought.

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Well I know for a fact about the Schizophrenia and the ADHD. The Antisocial Disorder....while I don't think he's been diagnosed with it, he has a lot of the symptoms for it. I will admit though, my current best friend is just an educational guess.



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03 Oct 2006, 2:03 am

I wonder if it has something to do with the types of people who are more willing to accept differences in others.

I'm not Aspie, but I've got social phobia. The friends I had at school were always the outcasts who had something 'wrong' with them or just didn't fit in. We bonded because we were different somehow and respected that in each others.

I've also found that 'abnormal' people are a lot more interesting to be around! They're also the ones who let me be myself and don't look at me like I'm crazy when I say or do something out of the ordinary.



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03 Oct 2006, 3:20 am

The two people in the world that I call friends both have Borderline Personality Disorder.


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03 Oct 2006, 10:09 pm

Well, for one thing. Schizophrenics and people with ADHD are assumed to be far more abnormal than they often are.


Also, eccentric people are more interesting to be around.



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07 Oct 2006, 10:53 pm

Yep anyone I've ever got close to (except my very balanced, very cool brother) has had one serious problem or another. The problems though are generally self inflicted, or trauma related. Every girlfriend I've had (7 of them and I'm only 21! :? ) was either abused, or abusive, totally out of touch with reality, or avoidant/dependant.

I think its because I've always been different but never knew why until recently, so I had this urge to really help people, knowing at least quite a bit about the human mind.

But you can not "save" someone who does not want to save themself. It was very silly of me to waste so much energy, granted I have learnt a world about people from it, and so many things about myself, now knowing exactly what i need and being comfortable alone at least for a while.

What you you do if someone close to you, has always had a firm grip on reality, then suddenly starts to tell you they hear voices telling them exactly what I'm doing and stuff, look I know I have no right to judge what is real or not (though I believe its self evident) but when someone tells me I place myself in their head and I'm an evil demon, I just can not tolerate it, I had to leave someone I very much loved because it made me very, very frustrated to try explain the reality of things to her. I ended up constantly picking her up when she was low, because after "saving the world" with her magical powers she obviously had a serious breakdown when reality came crashing down.

My cousin who used to be my best friend is schizophrenic, we still get along but half the time he can't feel a thing at all anymore, and about 3 other girlfriends became very vicious and depressed after being with me, all my life I've felt it's all my fault, that I turn people loopy or miserable, but that can't be true can it!?

I love different people, I love the "freaks and geeks" of society, and I'm definately not saying all schitzophrenics are loopy or anything, I've met some wonderful people that can tolerate me as a result, though still in rare doses.

Just how much help is worth it? Or is it better to try help people with inspiration and openly sharing opinion? Is it wrong to share the ugly and beautiful truths of mankind with people that possibly can't handle it? To those that might escape by denying reality. Hmmn.. Maybe this being the purpose of art, and why so many of us here are so creative.



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07 Oct 2006, 10:54 pm

Yep anyone I've ever got close to (except my very balanced, very cool brother) has had one serious problem or another. The problems though are generally self inflicted, or trauma related. Every girlfriend I've had (7 of them and I'm only 21! :? ) was either abused, or abusive, totally out of touch with reality, or avoidant/dependant.

I think its because I've always been different but never knew why until recently, so I had this urge to really help people, knowing at least quite a bit about the human mind.

But you can not "save" someone who does not want to save themself. It was very silly of me to waste so much energy, granted I have learnt a world about people from it, and so many things about myself, now knowing exactly what i need and being comfortable alone at least for a while.

What you you do if someone close to you, has always had a firm grip on reality, then suddenly starts to tell you they hear voices telling them exactly what I'm doing and stuff, look I know I have no right to judge what is real or not (though I believe its self evident) but when someone tells me I place myself in their head and I'm an evil demon, I just can not tolerate it, I had to leave someone I very much loved because it made me very, very frustrated to try explain the reality of things to her. I ended up constantly picking her up when she was low, because after "saving the world" with her magical powers she obviously had a serious breakdown when reality came crashing down.

My cousin who used to be my best friend is schizophrenic, we still get along but half the time he can't feel a thing at all anymore, and about 3 other girlfriends became very vicious and depressed after being with me, all my life I've felt it's all my fault, that I turn people loopy or miserable, but that can't be true can it!?

I love different people, I love the "freaks and geeks" of society, and I'm definately not saying all schitzophrenics are loopy or anything, I've met some wonderful people that can tolerate me as a result, though still in rare doses.

Just how much help is worth it? Or is it better to try help people with inspiration and openly sharing opinion? Is it wrong to share the ugly and beautiful truths of mankind with people that possibly can't handle it? To those that might escape by denying reality. Hmmn.. Maybe this being the purpose of art, and why so many of us here are so creative.



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07 Oct 2006, 11:48 pm

Wow...a girl I hung out with probably had OCD, and one of her parents had an official OCD diagnosis. We didn't share some of the same interests, but overall I thought that was very cool. Another girl I hung out may have had OCD and narcissistic personality disorder*.

Most of my male friends have probably been somewhat Aspie or a bit eccentric. One of my good acquaintances has high anxiety disorder and does not drive.



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07 Oct 2006, 11:56 pm

I have five friends. Three are on the autistic spectrum. One is a very inteligent pyromaniac. The other is just weird. And my mother is bipolar.


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08 Oct 2006, 9:14 am

Most of my friends are either genius', insane or l337 gamers. in fact most of them are all 3 (including me) Dont know many RL aspies tho, but most in my small group of friends are probably borderline.


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08 Oct 2006, 10:05 am

All the very close friends i've ever had, even before self-diagnosis, have either been from (fairly unusual) mixed-race/mixed-culture upbringings, been abused or had other serious conflicts with their parents, had experience of the mental health system, or had some sort of disability... i'm fairly sure that was due to unconscious or semi-conscious seeking out of people with an "outsider's" view on life, and/or people with such experiences being more open-minded in certain crucial ways and thus more likely to accept and be interested in me...

Since diagnosis and becoming involved in the disability rights movement, of course i consciously seek out people with disabilities as friends and comrades...

I've also known quite a few people (and know a few now) who i strongly suspect are/were Aspies without knowing it... never known whether to bring up the subject with any of them tho...



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20 Oct 2006, 1:39 pm

I've noticed that every one of my (very few) friends have been "abnormal". (Whatever that means!) The only two people I've been close to in recent memory have both been hospitalized with bipolar disorder, among other issues.

It's strange to look back on your life and realise that almost everyone you've been close to has been diagnosed with psychosis. I have no concept of how "normal" people think and behave. Between my own weirdness, and only having examples of other weird people to emulate, I'm a little lost sometimes.

I don't necessarily aspire to make "normal" friends, but it would be nice to know how. Maybe. I think I've probably always unconciously sought out people who felt similarly "othered" even before I put a name to my own difference-- much like shivanataraja mentioned. I just stupidly picked a career that involves more "social networking" than I know how to do, and it's getting frustrating to not have learned this stuff earlier.



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27 Oct 2006, 12:51 pm

My friends resemble a rogues gallery, artists, a gangster, a drinker, a hermit, a comic.



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31 Oct 2006, 10:48 am

My close friends, all of whom I made before i heard about AS are:

1 diagnosed Aspie
1 self-diagnosed aspie
1 person waiting to be tested
1 person the social services want to test for AS
1 person who soent the first five years of her life in hospital so is so institutionalised she is socially inept (her own explanation)
1 woman who has Cerebral Palsy which was only diagnosed whgen she was 23 :roll: (don't ask me how THAT can be missed!) she is now in a wheelchair

My school friends when I was young number exactly 2-

1 painfully shy little girl
1 girl who eas the other school outcast.

Maybe like attracts like? I put my high proportion of "aspie" friends down to this:

If they ARE aspies, they won't notice my social inadequecies.

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