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05 Dec 2011, 4:01 am

I suppose weve all been lied to. its just normal but when its by someone you trust and care about it hurts even more.
Especially when you catch them out yourself.
my friend on here swore he was through with WP... reasons i cbf to go into.. but finding him post a few days ago something i just accidently clicked on, I found he had relplied to the post.
I dont know why it hurt to find out that. it shouldnt really. I shouldnt really care but it still hurts so much. especially since i put myself out there so much for this person, one little lie brings everything crashing down for me.

now im wondering should i just forgive him, ask him why he posted on recently, or just let it go and forget about it, or forget about my friend all together...






















PS. Kail. if by some means you read this im sorry im so insecure.....



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05 Dec 2011, 4:06 am

I think many of us have sworn we won't come back to WP but still do. It's like the mafia, once you're in you can't get back out.

Sometimes people just change their minds. Was it a definite 'I'M NOT COMING BACK!' ?

I know how it feels like being lied to. When someone says one thing to me in a conversation then in another conversation says something completely different to another person I feel I was lied to. I have that same reaction of being lied to.


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05 Dec 2011, 4:09 am

I hate being lied to, but I've learned as pensieve points out that sometimes people just change their minds.



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05 Dec 2011, 4:10 am

pensieve wrote:
I think many of us have sworn we won't come back to WP but still do. It's like the mafia, once you're in you can't get back out.

Sometimes people just change their minds. Was it a definite 'I'M NOT COMING BACK!' ?

I know how it feels like being lied to. When someone says one thing to me in a conversation then in another conversation says something completely different to another person I feel I was lied to. I have that same reaction of being lied to.

It was a difinite "IM NOT F'N COMING BACK!"
Now i feel ignored and lied to....
Now im scared hes gunna start directing stuff at me n blaming me for stuff...

I really looked up to him so much. he seams like a real jerk on here,, but in real life hes such an awesome person to know... >.< i just am so confused n stuk n lost...

Sorry >.<



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05 Dec 2011, 4:10 am

He may have changed his mind. This place is addicting and it's hard to stay away. He may not have lied and just changed his mind or couldn't stay away even though he wants to be through with this place.



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05 Dec 2011, 4:13 am

League_Girl wrote:
He may have changed his mind. This place is addicting and it's hard to stay away. He may not have lied and just changed his mind or couldn't stay away even though he wants to be through with this place.


That could be the case and he most likely didn't feel it was important to inform her that he had started posting again. I certainly don't think it's something someone needs to announce to friends like a pregnancy or an engagement.



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05 Dec 2011, 4:13 am

League_Girl wrote:
He may have changed his mind. This place is addicting and it's hard to stay away. He may not have lied and just changed his mind or couldn't stay away even though he wants to be through with this place.

true i suppose. Maybe i should just talk to him about it?
after all i tried stopping him from leaving WP in the 1st place was lill sad to see him go.



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05 Dec 2011, 4:15 am

Wolfheart wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
He may have changed his mind. This place is addicting and it's hard to stay away. He may not have lied and just changed his mind or couldn't stay away even though he wants to be through with this place.


That could be the case and he most likely didn't feel it was important to inform her that he had started posting again. I certainly don't think it's something someone needs to announce to friends like a pregnancy or an engagement.


It just starts me thinking "well what else has he lied to me about?"



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05 Dec 2011, 4:16 am

I used to get into a lot of heated arguments on here and I needed a few days to cool off. Sometimes I would vow never to come back especially when disagreements turn into insults. I've been here a few years and I don't think this forum was as bad as it was a year or two ago. It goes through phases or jerk posters (all of whom are no longer posting here) and I don't mean trolls.

Now I ignore posts or leave before they get too heated.


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05 Dec 2011, 4:21 am

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I used to get into a lot of heated arguments on here and I needed a few days to cool off. Sometimes I would vow never to come back especially when disagreements turn into insults. I've been here a few years and I don't think this forum was as bad as it was a year or two ago. It goes through phases or jerk posters (all of whom are no longer posting here) and I don't mean trolls.

Now I ignore posts or leave before they get too heated.

I suppose when one loosk at it in the light its easier to see things clearer (a bit)
Im just glad i was able to come on here and ask someone what is the best solution instead of taking it into my own hands like i used to. (upset aspie female on a war path is very mess).

PS, ill swap you're NSW weather for Darwin's weather any day atm =)



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05 Dec 2011, 4:35 am

Teredia wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
He may have changed his mind. This place is addicting and it's hard to stay away. He may not have lied and just changed his mind or couldn't stay away even though he wants to be through with this place.

true i suppose. Maybe i should just talk to him about it?
after all i tried stopping him from leaving WP in the 1st place was lill sad to see him go.



Yeah I think you should talk to him about it.


If I were in that position, I think I'd be happy to see him back and assume he changed his mind.



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05 Dec 2011, 5:04 am

League_Girl wrote:
Teredia wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
He may have changed his mind. This place is addicting and it's hard to stay away. He may not have lied and just changed his mind or couldn't stay away even though he wants to be through with this place.

true i suppose. Maybe i should just talk to him about it?
after all i tried stopping him from leaving WP in the 1st place was lill sad to see him go.



Yeah I think you should talk to him about it.


If I were in that position, I think I'd be happy to see him back and assume he changed his mind.


Thank you ^^ i thank you a lot.



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05 Dec 2011, 5:40 am

I hate people thinking I am a liar. But it is inevitable if you are different from other people. For 3 reasons:

1. Seeing things differently
For example, I used to be a Mormon. I tried to make sense of it and do what I was told. I put a lot of stuff online trying to prove that the church was true. For example, I would write "this prophet said X, and then X came true!"

I eventually decided this was all coincidence. So I gave up promoting the church and started putting stuff online about how the church needs to improve. But I left the early stuff online because it was still true: now I just saw a bigger picture.

But years later some people think I am creepy and unreliable because I appear to be saying opposite things. It is easy to be thought a liar when you try too hard to tell the truth.

2. Exaggerating or over simplifying.
Also, I try hard to fit in, and will sometimes say things I think are probably true and say hem as if they are eternal facts. Later if I change my mind somebody could accuse me of lying. Nobody ever has, but I imagine they could.

3. Remembering differently.
I read a lot of comics in the 1980s, and now I sometimes read interviews with comic creators from that period and before. Often one creator will accuse another of being a liar, but they just remember the same event differently. Jim Shooter (then editor in chief of Marvel Comics) is a good example of this. A lot of comic professionals still hate him, and think he cannot be trusted. They tell stories of how he did bad things and then changed his story. But another bunch of comic readers (including myself) see things from his point of view and think his critics only saw part of the story.

So I think it is easy to appear a liar even if we are not.

Having said that, I think the vast majority of people do not care about truth at all. They only care about what they can get. To prove this, try discussing someone's faults. They will become very defensive. Or try discussing the philosophical foundations of what we do: people become very bored. Truth is only of interest to people if it helps them get what they want. That is true for me as well. My special interest is in saving the world so I like to flatter myself that my own view of truth is bigger than other people's, but it also means I disagree with a lot of common assumptions, and so most people would consider me wrong on a lot of important topics.It all depends on where we stand.



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05 Dec 2011, 1:31 pm

Teredia wrote:
It just starts me thinking "well what else has he lied to me about?"

If he just changed his mind then I highly doubt that he perceived this as a lie. I certainly wouldn't have, and I think that most people wouldn't.