The worst ideas from the goverment. (England)

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11 Oct 2006, 3:23 pm

Do what the title says.


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11 Oct 2006, 3:26 pm

Er... ID cards, devolution (I'm a unionist, so I would say that), PFI, anti-terrorism laws, Blunkett (twice), Mandelson (twice), suppression of dissent...

Was that what you wanted?



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11 Oct 2006, 3:46 pm

Near where i live the local council, or whoever does it, threatened some toddlers with ASBOs.
Does that count?



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11 Oct 2006, 6:07 pm

Botched privatisation schemes.

Jobs for the boys.

Lack of a decent environmental programme.

Continuing support of the Evil Empire. Tacit support of arms dealers.

Taxation system which continues to increase the gap between the richest 10% and everyone else, and supports lazy chavs and druggies, and people with more money than they know what to do with, while screwing anyone who actually has to work for a living.

Lack of proportional representation, so many people don't feel like they'll ever be represented, so they don't bother to vote any more.

Subservience to the EU on every policy except those which might actually do us some good.

A complete lack of willpower to tackle corruption and hypocrisy amongst politicians, civil servants and quangoes.

Almost anything produced by the Health & Safety Executive in the last 5 years - you've covered all the bases now, guys, hence the desperate need to find new threats in order to justify your own existence.

The continued, and almost entirely wrong, assumption that (in competitive tendering) the bid with the lowest cost is automatically the best one.

Allowing multiple-home ownership and then permitting construction on green belt land because "there's a housing crisis".

Doing little to tackle the North/South divide.

Having such a tolerant Police force that victims are more likely to be arrested than criminals, and anything less than murder (e.g. graffiti, mugging, burglary) is ignored.

Creating an economy where talented craftsmen are valued less than superficial yuppie idiots who make their money out of exploiting others.


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11 Oct 2006, 6:10 pm

banning fox hunting


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11 Oct 2006, 6:23 pm

Making the House of Lords elected.



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11 Oct 2006, 6:37 pm

BazzaMcKenzie wrote:
banning fox hunting


I disagree.

Foxes aren't squeaky clean by any means - if they get into a hen-house they'll kill every hen (though if you leave the bodies they will come back for them - it isn't just "blood lust" as some people claim. The average domestic cat has more of that).

HOWEVER I have to say that foxes don't burn fossil fuels or build nuclear power stations or build roads and run other living things over just because they happen to be in the way. They don't make weapons such as cluster bombs, napalm, incendiary devices, mines or dum-dum bullets. Foxes don't smoke. They don't visit prostitutes, drink alcohol, take speed or shoot up. They don't make foods loaded with chemicals that have no nutritional value. They don't poison river water with oestrogen. They don't take pleasure in suffering - they kill to eat. Foxes have more of a right to be here than we do, because foxes don't f**k things up. And I don't think we can be moralistic about hunting down this "evil predator" when we're busy buiding nice little chicken-filled lunch boxes for them to tuck into.

What really winds me up about all this is that the same tweed-wearing Tory fatties who chase foxes then have to go out shooting rabbits and deer because there aren't enough natural predators to keep these pests under control. Errrr.... hello????

Luckily around my way the combination of wild boar and escapee big cats means that the natural balance is fairly healthy. Long may it continue.


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11 Oct 2006, 7:16 pm

sociable_hermit wrote:
... wild boar ....

You still have wild boar in the UK? Wow.

We have lots of ferals. What's the bag limit?

Back on topic, does a Tony Blair decision count as government? - Invading Iraq based on words of mass deception.


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11 Oct 2006, 7:55 pm

We didn't have wild boar... well, we had captive boar, and I daresay some of them were pretty livid (joke copyright Monty Python circa 1976), but none were living wild.

In the last 10 years or so, though, a mixture of escapes and deliberate sabotage by animal rights extremists has seen the emergence or a significant wild boar population, initially based in Kent but now speading across South East England. These are not simply feral pigs... they have more of the spirit of Ghengis Khan about them, and I've been told that the best thing to do if you meet one is climb up a tree.

Wildcat stories abound across the UK. I have personally seen cat prints in my local woods that were bigger than my hands (and I have big hands, LOL!). My dad lives out in the countryside and I was growled at there, one night, with the sort of growl that resonates in your chest before it reaches your ears. It was dark, and I walked away.. backwards, very slowly. My Dad's neighbour salvaged a deer which had been hit by a car. He left the carcass around the side of the house but found next morning that half of it had been removed. Foxes and badgers don't do that: they pick at the bones. This had literally been chewed in half. Whatever took the first half came back for the other half the following night.


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11 Oct 2006, 10:11 pm

Ken Livingstone taking a U-Turn on the Routemaster. :evil: I'm STILL getting over that! :evil:



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11 Oct 2006, 10:12 pm

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12 Oct 2006, 11:00 am

Tequila wrote:
Er... ID cards, devolution (I'm a unionist, so I would say that), PFI, anti-terrorism laws, Blunkett (twice), Mandelson (twice), suppression of dissent...

Was that what you wanted?


Yeppers.


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12 Oct 2006, 11:01 am

MelancholyBunny wrote:
Near where i live the local council, or whoever does it, threatened some toddlers with ASBOs.
Does that count?


Yep.


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12 Oct 2006, 11:15 am

ID cards, surveillance and general disregard of privacy and human-rights, jobs for the boys/girls, 'care in the community' (means no care at all)
'consultation' (means we'll do what we like and pretend to take people's views into account) 'rationalisation' (cuts) and all 1984-ish double speak where something negative and cheap is made to sound like a great idea.



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12 Oct 2006, 11:19 am

It could just as well have been Sweden. Same s**t here.


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14 Oct 2006, 5:16 am

um...fedrating england into historal regions not EU voting regions.


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